WHICH CELEBRITY?
Over at Protein Wisdom, Jeff G. linked to a site that does face recognition software (via Femeniste blog). The program scans your picture and suggests various possible celebrities that you look like.
Over at Protein Wisdom, Jeff G. linked to a site that does face recognition software (via Femeniste blog). The program scans your picture and suggests various possible celebrities that you look like.As someone who is a Jew as well as an avid Star Trek fan, I am so delighted and thankful that Mr. Shantner and his wife made this trip to Israel. His was of trying to bring together peoples from different countries is a wonderful effort. I hope it will succeed. It is not about politics. Its is about being a humanitarian and helping out the children of that area of the world. In Star Trek - Undiscivered Country and Star Trek Next Generation - episodes of Unification - we saw Ambassador Spock trying to bring the Federation together with the Klingons and the Romulan Empires. Some have called that "cowboy diplomacy". Spock needed to take into consideration of the needs of the many outweihign the needs of the few or one. So too, Mr. Shatner and wife have gone ahead and risked their lives to help out. We need to stop playing politics in that area of the world. We need to stop relying on people for our energy needs who are barely in the modern world. Our greed and interference with the cultures of the Middle East have made a very precarious situation even worse. Its seems we havent learned from the Starfleet Prime Directive of non interference with cultures which have not matured to wisdom. We have a lot to learn to.Say... didn't Kirk run into a green chick at some point? More on Ahead with Horses here.
I would like to bring to the attention of Mr. Shatner and Lizabeth about a Star Trek - Scifi fan club in Israel called Starbase 972. They have been around since the last 1990s. They have hundreds of members, an annual convention, as well as a web site. Their web site address is www.starbase972.com
-by jertrek
Hi Bill-I think this is an admirable thing you are doing trying to help the children of these cultures!!!-I live near the border of Arkansas and Oklahoma-I saw on local news an "Ahead with Horses"Chapter is starting in our area!!~-It is to benefit disabled children and to help them to ride horses to enable them to help their conditions!!!-Good job!!-I hope the effort becomes worldwide!!!-smilies!!!~!
-by prettypatti55
This is a wonderful initiative and I hope that it will work, with all my heart.
The world needs men and women of peace and generosity. I wish you all the best in your endeavour to bring the different peoples of the Middle East a bit closer together for the sake of their children.
-by Claudia
What a wonderful initiative, I hope and pray it fulfils all your hopes for it and that it succeeds in bringing people together in that troubled region.
Please keep us updated on its progress!
-by greenchick

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that President George W. Bush lacks authority to try Guantanamo Bay inmates before military tribunals, a blow to the administration's anti-terrorism strategy that scales back presidential wartime powers.The justices, voting 5-3, said Congress hadn't expressly authorized the military commissions. The justices also said the structure and procedures of the tribunals violate both the Geneva Conventions and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
This is the first time in history a prisoner of war has been declared a criminal under a country's legal system - an oddity to say the least, as they were captured in a war in a foreign country. Chief Justice John Roberts excluded himself since he'd served on an appeals court panel that had examined it. The ruling was 5-3, with Justices Thomas, Alito, and Scalia dissenting.
Right Wing News carried the story, and John Hawkins had this commentary:
I don't agree with this decision at all because I believe Commander-in-Chief has the Constitutional authority to deal with foreign prisoners, held outside of the US, as he sees fit, without Congressional oversight. That being said, from what I'm seeing, this may not be the huge setback it's being portrayed as by the press and the Democrats.
For one thing, as Jonathan Adler over at Bench Memos pointed out,
"(T)he Court apparently reaffirmed the executive's authority to detain enemy combatants for the duration of hostilities."
So we can't put them in front of a military tribunal, but we can still hold them indefinitely.
Commenters had a discussion about the legal decision and what it means:
*UPDATE: Added comment by DANEgerous about the rejected update to the Geneva Conventions that would have defined terrorists and "freedom fighters" as regular soldiers, an important reminder.John at Powerline write this about it:
Scalia's dissent accuses the majority of ignoring the plain language of Congress's enactment providing that:John, Scott and Paul at Powerline I have found are usually spot on with their commentary on law as they are all Lawyers themselves so it will be interesting to see what they say once they have had more time to read more of the decision.
[N]o court, justice, or judge shall have jurisdiction to hear or consider an application for a writ of habeas corpus filed by or on behalf of an alien detained by the Department of Defense at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Scalia further argues that the majority substitutes its own judgment as to "military necessity" for that of the executive branch.
I've only had time to scan the opinions briefly and may have further comments later. For now, the one apparent implication of Hamdan is that hundreds of Guantanamo detainees will become participants in the American judicial system. If they thought Gitmo has been a strange and disorienting experience, they haven't seen anything yet.
-by The_Doyle
Hell, I'd even support a tough Tribunal law from Hillary. I don't care who's tough on terror, as long as they're really committed to protecting this country.
-by Arbiter
We should close Gitmo and send these people into other prisons in other parts of the world. Then set up a World Court that would like to see these prisoners indicted.
This would take the pressure off the US Government so they don't get all the blame for having this type of jail and it would show that the rest of the world wants to jail terrorists too.
Seriously. If we can get a coalition of courts on this matter it would be a good thing.
-by Left_Turn>Then set up a World Court that would like to seeSure. Let's get Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Yemen to preside over the court, while we're at it. You Libs and your ideas of a World Court... who the hell are you kidding? The only people a World Court would go after is the US and Israel.
>these prisoners indicted.
-by CavalierX
Couple questions:
1. Out of honest curiosity, where is it stated that the C.I.C. [Commander in Chief] has authority to detain people indefinitely? Is that in the Constitution or derived from case law?
2. What's the worry about having these people face normal criminal trials? Most of them were caught red-handed, and I think the general feeling among conservatives (sorry for the blanket statement) is that everyone in Gitmo is guilty. So, why not just move em through the legal system, sentence em, and then have them locked away in a much more sound and above question legal matter?
-by RastusNowhere. That's the problem. These people do not fall under any category of prisoner ever devised. Therefore, as the Chief Executive, tasked with protecting American lives, the President detained them until their eventual fate can be determined.
>where is it stated that the C.I.C. has authority
>to detain people indefinitely? Is that in the
>Constitution or derived from case law?
-by CavalierX"These are not criminals caught stealing a TV, they are enemy soldiers taken from battlefields."They're not even enemy soldiers. A soldier wears a uniform and does not use women and children as human shields. The prisoners in Gitmo are enemy combatants (non-uniformed fighters), or to put it more bluntly, terrorists.
As they are not uniformed, the Geneva Convention does not apply to them. And, as they are not US citizens, they have no rights as afforded by the Constitution."What's the worry about having these people face normal criminal trials?"They are not US citizens, nor even US residents, and are thus not subject to our Constitution or criminal laws. They are enemy combatants captured on a battlefield where they surrounded themselves with innocents or "un-attackable" zones (mosques), severely risking the lives of our soldiers.
If we can't try them, we should at least hold them until the war is over in the country they came from.
-by ClintSeems the Justice Stevens is worried that by trying these savages we will violate the Geneva Conventions. Fine. Follow the Geneva Convention to the letter. All non - uniformed combatants caught on the battlefield should be shot on the spot as spies. Take them back to the hellhole they came from and shoot them in the brain. Problem solved.
Also, the Geneva Convention states that unlawful comatants using citizens as shields, not wearing uniforms, or using hospitals or mosques as shelter may be shot on the spot. Shoot all of them in the head. Problem solved.
The United States should not take one more prisoner in the War on Terror. Head shots all the way around.
-by fugazi2. What's the worry about having these people face normal criminal trials? Most of them were caught red-handed, and I think the general feeling among conservatives (sorry for the blanket statement) is that everyone in Gitmo is guilty. So, why not just move em through the legal system, sentence em, and then have them locked away in a much more sound and above question legal matter?Because THIS. IS. A. WAR. This isn't a riot or bank robbery, these people aren't innocent until proven guilty. These murderous vermin are not covered by the Geneva Conventions; in past wars they would have been shot without benefit of even a military trial. (Look up what we did to Nazis discovered out of uniform behind our lines or on our soil if you have doubts.)
You act as if the legal system's judgements are foregone conclusions. They aren't. Many of these terrorist bastards will walk if put on trial in a criminal court, and not because they're not guilty. I mean, let's examine what would have happened if we'd captured Zarqawi... could we prove that was him in the video sawing off Michael Berg's head? Can you imagine the media circus? Who benefits from this besides the terrorists? Look at the freakshow the Moussaoui trial was and tell me that's what you want for all of these people being held at Gitmo.
Rastus, I'm sorry, but this is the sort of thing that convinces me that your side is not serious about fighting this war, or even treating it as a war. Do you even know how to be ruthless? I see this sort of thing time and again from your side. I was literally arguing with liberals on september 12th who wanted the US to "arrest" bin Laden and put him on trial instead of treating the WTC attacks as what they were, acts of war.
Look, if you're concerned about torture at Gitmo, I've got a compromise: shoot the detainees in the head. Y'see? Both sides win. No more "torture" of them (so you can feel good), and no more breating by them (so *I* can).
-by EvilOtto
What I don't understand is why we must follow the Geneva Convention. Under the G.C. regulations, BOTH sides must abide by the agreement in order for it to be binding.
Al-Qaeda certainly doesn't.
-by Kingfisher"Rastus, I'm sorry, but this is the sort of thing that convinces me that your side is not serious about fighting this war, or even treating it as a war."I have no problem with striking back at terrorists. I'm not advocating that we do nothing and just wait to be attacked again. Anyone who's in Gitmo and is guilty of terrorist acts needs to be put away for life, if not executed.
To be honest, the problem I have with Gitmo is that whole "you will be held until the war on terror ends, but that war has not been officially declared, and we have no idea what would even CONSTITUTE victory or when that might happen". Now, if you believe that everyone there is guilty and you trust the administration to not abuse this power, I can see where you would be fine with the whole situation...but to me, Gitmo gets uncomfortably close to a Tower Of London/Man In The Iron Mask situation: anyone could be plugged in there and held mute for the rest of their life. Call me a bleeding heart liberal but I'm uncomfortable giving that kind of power to one branch of government, without oversight.
I guess I need to get my head around the fact that habeas corpus does not extend to non-U.S. citizens, but the whole situation just doesn't sit right. It's an unusual situation, to say the least...kind of a catch-22 really, as they can't be put before a tribunal and they're not subject to U.S. courts...
-by Rastus
This is the most important Supreme Court ruling in my life time, even more important the Bush vs. Gore.
I think that the majority opinion raised some important points, but for the most part I'm utterly flabbergasted.
As best as I can tell the SCOTUS ruled that the USA has treaty obligations with respect to Al Queda - one that no US Congress would have willingly entered into - and that uninformed Al Queda agents who themselves do not adhere to the Geneva conventions and publicly scorn it are to be afforded the full rights of POW's under article #3 of the Geneva convention. This an astounding ruling, and an astounding and utterly unique and anti-historical interpretation of the Geneva convention. I cannot possible imagine that the Geneva conventions would have been ratified by the Senate had that interpretation been forced on to them prior to ratification. Heck, the major powers would have never even introduced the Geneva conventions with such language since to be frank, the major powers constructed the Geneva convention with language designed to ensure that they would have a free hand in dealing with insurgent groups in thier extended colonial empires. They would have never written the Geneva conventions in such a way that they could be used against them, and any ordinary reading of the Geneva conventions reads that its heavily skewed toward giving rights , protections, and gaurantees to the big wealthy European powers and none to anyone else.
But, the single most frustrating thing about the ruling is that it suggests absolutely no remedy to the situation. Stevens majority opinion even explicitly states that the enemy combatants - pardon me, we can't even refer to them as that anymore - the "prisoners of war" are to be held for the duration of the conflict. How long is that going to be???? Is holding them without trial somehow more humane than sending them up before military tribunals to hear thier case????
Some have suggested that this will send the cases through the ordinary criminal justice system. I'd like to see US court hold that it has jurisdiction over non-US citizen captured on the battlefield by the military in a foreign country. It isn't going to happen and there is nothing in the majority opinion suggesting that the majority expects it to happen. What they expect to happen now, I'm not entirely sure. Again, no remedy seems to be provided for.
-by CelebrimHere's a question to all the guys wanting these clowns in Gitmo released. In every other war, when we captured enemy combatants (and these were soldiers wearing uniforms not terrorists masquerading as civilians to get close to kill our guys) we put them in camps until the conflict was over or when we could do a prisoner swap with the other side. Now we could swap the guys in gitmo to the other side, oh that's right, they KILL all the guys they capture from our side. Hmmmm. Slight problem there. Also, if you read the Geneva conventions, it also says that once a side throws out the rules set down by the Geneva convention, they are no longer protected by same. The murder of civilians and the torture (true torture not the wanna be cry baby stuff that the left is yelling that we are doing) and murder of captured troops is a direct violation of those rules. Sorry but the scum we are fighting do not get the luxury of being held under those rules. To be honest we have been way more hospitable to those we have captured than they deserve and infinitly more hospitable than our own troops have been treated. Just an FYI.
-by Sabian"Also, if you read the Geneva conventions, it also says that once a side throws out the rules set down by the Geneva convention, they are no longer protected by same."If you read the SCOTUS ruling, they've elimenated that as an option. Under the SCOTUS ruling, the majority admitted that Al Queda was not a signatory party, but mandated that as long as there exist another signatory party to the treaty our obligation to that treaty party requires us to extend most of the protections of the treaty to non-treaty prisoners and even violators of the treaty. For these purposes, most importantly that means things like immunity to criminal prosecution and the requirement to hold the prisoners in conditions of respect and dignity (no interogation at all, much less nothing that could be called torture) for the duration of the conflict."Innocent until proven guilty should stand. If these guys are so obviously guilty, their incarceration should stand in court."I don't know why you would think that.
Think about the various protections the court affords to the accused. You probably watched CSI or Law and Order, so you ought to know a little about what can go wrong in the collection of evidence. Now think about the fact that in criminal court the standard of guilt is 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.
No consider the fact that these men weren't arrested. They were captured by soldiers who weren't taking great pains to photograph the surroundings and collect evidence in accordance with standard police proceedings. All the evidence that might actually exist is some soldier's word that someone whose face he couldn't see was shooting at him, and when they entered the building where the fire was coming from they found an empty rifle in one room, some spent shells, and this guy in the other - and no, they cannot present the rifle and shells as evidence because they didn't think to put on gloves and put them in plastic bags and wouldn't have thought it necessary in the middle of a battle anyway. Didn't you learn anything at all from the OJ Simpson trial? If the evidence is 'botched' there isn't going to be a conviction no matter how suggestive the evidence is. It doesn't take much of a defence attorney to get charges like that thrown out. Now consider the fact that the platoon of soldiers in question is now in Iraq, and subject to a subpoena from the courts to appear to testify. How well do you think that would work out? Can Al Queda summon combat units from the field to appear in trial? How well is a soldier - with no training on how to testify in court - going to stand up under cross examination by a lawyer determined to needle him into an angry outburst?
No, I don't see how you can imagine that because these guys are obviously guilty that the charges would stand up in a criminal court.
-by Celebrim
Best solution I have heard yet on the whole detainee issue (from a poster at redstate.com):Let me take this opportunity to say, also, that Congress dropped the ball on this whole detainee business from the get-go. There should have been far-reaching legislation propsed by about November '01 contemplating a kind of alternative legal system for terror suspects -- an amalgam, as it were, between the civilian and military courts. The idea would be to protect intelligence assets in a very messy and unprecedented war, while still allowing for the penetration of the principle of due process. Congress created the Military Code; why not a code for terror trials of this sort?-by Idealogue
Since the Geneva Convention is now the over riding authority, does this mean that if our Soldiers execute terrorists who are not wearing a uniform on the battlefield as called for by the Convention, they are free and clear of any legal punishment? "Sir, I was wrong, we did not have any LIVING prisoners from that last raid". International law, you know.
-by ReaganfanOut of honest curiosity, where is it stated that the [CinC] has authority to detain people indefinitely?It's implied in the Geneva Conventions, rastus: The GC requires that POWs be returned at the completion of hostilities. One infers from that that illegal combattants may be held at least that long. The GC doesn't address holding illegal combattants; they apparently did not expect anyone to be squeamish enough to take them prisoner instead of summarily executing them.It does address the issue of doubt, though:
PI,Art 5: The present Convention shall apply to [legal combattants] from the time they fall into the power of the enemy and until their final release and repatriation.So, if we're in doubt then they should be treated as POWs. This means that, under the GC, they are specifically not subject to criminal (civilian) trial by the detaining power (us) for the duration of the conflict unless they commit a crime against civilians (while on parole, or while trying to escape, for example). Note that POWs "shall be released and repatriated without delay after the cessation of active hostilities."Should any doubt arise as to whether persons, having committed a belligerent act and having fallen into the hands of the enemy [are legal combattants], such persons shall enjoy the protection of the present Convention until such time as their status has been determined by a competent tribunal.
Some may argue that the Gitmoans are civilians and thus protected under a different GC (on Civilians vice POWs), buyt that one specifically states:
"[if] an individual protected person is definitely suspected of or engaged in activities hostile to the security of the State, such individual person shall not be entitled to claim such rights and privileges under the present Convention as would, if exercised in the favour of such individual person, be prejudicial to the security of such State. " [underline added]-by Grognard
Sorry to keep posting, but I'm absolutely fuming about this one.
Let me make this one brief. I do not understand why it is that civil rights activists are celebrating a decision that strikes down bringing these men to trial and far from repudiating indefinate detention without trial instead suggests it as a remedy.
Can anyone explain that to me? I mean, beyond the obvious.
-by Celebrim
Here's a better question:
Why is it that the terrorists embody everything that liberals purport to hate (fundamentalism, theocratic rule, opression of women and minorities, warmongering, etc.) and they keep quiet, yet Bush does none of these things and they accuse him day in and day out of doing so?
-by Hotspur
Celebrim,
You are mistaken that there is no remedy..the court simply ruled that the president didnt have the power to set up the courts..it clearly states in its majority opinion that Congress has the power to set up these courts..as they do based on the constitution..the president simply needs to go to Congress to get the authority..those on the right should not be up in arms about this..the SCOTUS simply stated that the Executive branch doesnt have the power to set up these courts..and it doesnt..Congress clearly does however.
-by cthns
Today's ruling is a disaster, but hardly an unexpected one. Stevens was the only justice left over from the March sitting who hadn't written a majority opinion yet, and oral arguments went very poorly for the government. Kennedy takes a relatively slim view of executive power, anyway, and the four liberals could hardly be expected to have come down any differently.
Celebrim aptly points out above that the court simply says, "NO!", without providing any kind of a remedy. The court's jurisprudence here is a total mess: They ruled in Hamdi that the AUMF did authorize the President to detain IECs but that some due process must be provided, and now they strike down the only attempt at due process yet given. All of this despite the fact that Congress had already passed 1) The AUMF, triggering all executive powers fundamental to waging war, and 2) the Detainee Treatment Act, which very clearly states that the Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to hear this case. The hoops that Stevens and co. jump through here would make even a Clinton apologist blush. All that's missing is a contention over the meaning of the word "is".
The portion regarding the Geneva conventions is even more sickening. We are essentially now saying that the protections of the Conventions apply to not only those who have never ratified it and are not covered under its plain language, but also those who's entire status as a combatant violates the Conventions themselves. The only reassuring factor one takes away from this is that Kennedy, doing his normal waffle-your-way-through-each-decision dance, doesn't join this part of the opinion in full, although he agrees that the military commission violates the Conventions and the UCMJ.
All that having been said, Congress can rectify the immediate effects of today's decision by simply passing a law which explicitly authorizes (apparently it has to be super-duper explicit from now on) these sorts of Commissions. But the long-term effects of these are disastrous. It had been a pretty respectable term with no major outrages up until today. Conservatives should remember that there's still a lot of work to be done; switching Roberts and Alito for Rehnquist and O'Connor helps, but it doesn't shift the court all that dramatically from where it was last year. Which is to say: A state of confusion.
-by Maledicta
I think people need to step back and seriously consider whether the Supreme Court actually has the power and authority to make the ruling they did. SCOTUS does not have the power to rule on anything whatsoever they desire, only areas given them by the US constitution. They can't rule on whether movies ought to be filmed in stereo, they can't rule on Venezuela's port authority laws, they can't decide that POWs are protected by the Geneva Convention or not. That's simply not their area of power that the Constitution limited them to.
If they make a ruling, that's all very fine, other than wasting our time and money, but it holds no more power than if I made a "ruling" on the topic.
-by Christopher Taylor>"And yes Mr Taylor the SCOTUS does have that
>authority. They can rukle on anything brought in
>front of them."
No, see the portion of Article III I posted above. You make it very plain that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Even more plain than usual.
>"WRONG."
As if the last tidbit wasn't enough, you then prove that you haven't even the slightest clue what Stevens is saying. For starters, this should be obvious anyway, since he joined in Scalia's dissent in Hamdi, which was entirely based on the premise that citizenship is what draws the distinction between whether or not someone may be detained as an IEC. Since Hamdan is not a citizen, Stevens clearly believes he can be detained. Secondly, Hamdi is controlling precedent, and the court is not being asked either to overrule it or to decide the constitutionality of the IEC designation; that's already been done. But even if you weren't familiar with the fact that this had been decided in Hamdi two years ago, here is Stevens today saying it once again:"It bears emphasizing that Hamdan does not challenge, and we do not today address, the Government’s power to detain him for the duration of active hostilities in order to prevent such harm."-by Maledicta
Protocol I was rejected by the Senate & Reagan in 1987
While I recommend that the Senate grant advice and consent to this agreement, I have at the same time concluded that the United States cannot ratify a second agreement on the law of armed conflict negotiated during the same period. I am referring to Protocol I additional to the 1949 Geneva Conventions, which would revise the rules applicable to international armed conflicts. Like all other efforts associated with the International Committee of the Red Cross, this agreement has certain meritorious elements. But Protocol I is fundamentally and irreconcilably flawed. It contains provisions that would undermine humanitarian law and endanger civilians in war. One of its provisions, for example, would automatically treat as an international conflict any so-called “war of national liberation.'’ Whether such wars are international or non-international should turn exclusively on objective reality, not on one’s view of the moral qualities of each conflict. To rest on such subjective distinctions based on a war’s alleged purposes would politicize humanitarian law and eliminate the distinction between international and non-international conflicts. It would give special status to “wars of national liberation,'’ an ill-defined concept expressed in vague, subjective, politicized terminology. Another provision would grant combatant status to irregular forces even if they do not satisfy the traditional requirements to distinguish themselves from the civilian population and otherwise comply with the laws of war. This would endanger civilians among whom terrorists and other irregulars attempt to conceal themselves. These problems are so fundamental in character that they cannot be remedied through reservations, and I therefore have decided not to submit the Protocol to the Senate in any form, and I would invite an expression of the sense of the Senate that it shares this view. Finally, the Joint Chiefs of Staff have also concluded that a number of the provisions of the Protocol are militarily unacceptable.Sounds very familiar doesn't it? The Kelo-5 insisted the Geneva Conventions includes this very 'Protocol I' which was specifically rejected by the President and Congress 19 years ago.
In fact, we must not, and need not, give recognition and protection to terrorist groups as a price for progress in humanitarian law.
I believe that these actions are a significant step in defense of traditional humanitarian law and in opposition to the intense efforts of terrorist organizations and their supporters to promote the legitimacy of their aims and practices. The repudiation of Protocol I is one additional step, at the ideological level so important to terrorist organizations, to deny these groups legitimacy as international actors.
I would also invite an expression of the sense of the Senate that it shares the view that the United States should not ratify Protocol I, thereby reaffirming its support for traditional humanitarian law, and its opposition to the politicization of that law by groups that employ terrorist practices.
So... did not the Kelo-5 quite simply lie, and in doing so:
"...undermine humanitarian law and endanger civilians in war."Apparently tiring of ignoring our protections guaranteed by the limits of the US Constitution with the inclusion of references to international law, the Kelo-5 have moved on to ignoring the protections of international law.
"...give special status to “wars of national liberation,'’ an ill-defined concept expressed in vague, subjective, politicized terminology."
"...grant combatant status to irregular forces even if they do not satisfy the traditional requirements to distinguish themselves from the civilian population and otherwise comply with the laws of war."
Act to "endanger civilians among whom terrorists and other irregulars attempt to conceal themselves."
Grant "these groups legitimacy as international actors."
Support "the politicization of that law by groups that employ terrorist practices."
-by DANEgerus


Not every Bolivian likes to be under the thumb of Hugo Chavez’s minime, Evo Morales.
Residents of the eastern province, Santa Cruz, which is full of industrious immigrants and enterprising native-indigenous Bolivians who’ve moved there, want instead to have autonomy.
They hate communism and want freedom.
Imagine being a resident of Santa Cruz. Your area is not full of grinding poverty and inability to comprehend the modern world, but of full industrious immigrants who believe in capitalism and freedom.
These immigrants have set up coffee farms (I’m drinking Bolivian coffee as I write this), soya farms, clothing factories, jewelry-making assembly plants, and other things that the global market is happy to buy from Bolivian exporters. They welcome every comer. They’ve also developed their natural gas industry, the continent’s second largest, from literally nothing in 1990 to a major supplier to its neighbors.
Darkening the cloud over them is the specter of Evo Morales. He’s a communist who’s brought in Venezuelan troops. He’s out welfare shoveling from Santa Cruz’s hard-earned wealth, creating vast underclasses dependent only on him. He’s brought in Cuban agents, posing as “doctors” (and putting real doctors out of business!) He’s chased all foreign investment out of Santa Cruz by literally stealing natural gas operations and handing them over to Hugo Chavez’s Venezuelan oil men. And now he is targetting fertile land, specifically Santa Cruz’s hard-developed agricultural land, for “redistribution” to socialist “collectives” to be directed by Cuban operatives, without the consent of any free people.
But at least 150,000 Bolivians rallied today Santa Cruz and took a stand. Here are some of the freedom babes:

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They are fine!!! That one sign sums it all up, “God doesn’t want communism. We want autonomy.” If they don’t secede, hey at least they’ll be marginally free of Morales’s grip, not to mention keep the gorgeous chicks to themselves. What’s with the dark green flag? I know that isn’t Bolivia’s national flag. Is that Santa Cruz’s flag?[I agree, although I got the tip from the excellent Cuban-American Bablu blog]
-by MattThe evil American empire must be behind this…. bwaaaahaaaahahahaha
All the best to them. I hope the best for Santa Cruz and hopefully in the future Bolivia.
Our Media once again is failing us. Had I not visited your site - I’d not know this info.
Great job all of you!
-by Michael
Are you sure they were only 100,000? During the pro-amnesty rallies here in the U.S. that crowd would’ve been pegged at least at 500K - it reminds me of the crowds at the L.A. protest.
Great post, and even better for them if they achieve this. It sends a heck of a statement to Evo and his posse.
-by La Ventanita
I’v posted a couple of videos of the event on my website. my favorite is the national anthem/viva Bolivia! one, I just want to share it with the readers .
-by Jonathan
Cambas are the hottest women in Bolivia.Damn those are nice pics. will have to borrow some.
I am kind of ambivalent on this one, though. In the larger scope of Bolivia, the Cambas are a much needed counterweight to Evo’s silliness. And the region is the most developed in Bolivia.
I am wary of Santa Cruz’ elite - who are behind this movement– and of claims that they were victimized continually by La Paz.
Read my commentary on the issue at the bottom here.
-by Boli-Nica

| AMERICAN LEAGUE | ||
| TEAM | WINS | LOSSES |
| Red Sox | 47 | 28 |
| Tigers | 54 | 25 |
| A's | 41 | 36 |
| NATIONAL LEAGUE | ||
| TEAM | WINS | LOSSES |
| Mets | 47 | 30 |
| Cardinals | 43 | 34 |
| Padres | 41 | 36 |
the Mets are over 2 standard deviations under the avg in "GD%" (lost runners), and 3 std devs above the avg in "SB/SH". A bit of a garbage stat, and probably not normally distributed, but still, they DO move runners along. Too bad they are still first in the NL in OPS but 2nd in runs scored to L.A., who as a team have some GREAT clutch stats so far!If this information could be combined with an analysis of defense and pitching, you could have a nice metric for predicting winners. At present my guess is a Mets v White Sox World Series, with the Reds and Detroit putting up a great fight in the playoffs.
-by Tom HInteresting. The Tigers don't seem to think much of your theory...making their season all the more impressive/curious/astounding.
They apparently really ARE winning with pitching and defense just like the announcers endlessly remind me.
-by Mister Furious
And power. The Tigers depend heavily on power.Hey, I didn't say this was the most important part of an offense, just one factor. It's part of why the Mets and White Sox and Reds are winning. The Tigers are relying on other tools.
-the Crank
Great stuff, Crank. I figured the Mets' excellent baserunning was helping them out somewhere. This gives a clue.Their 84% success rate in steals (as they lead the league in SBs) helps a lot. Plus, leading in slugging by a sizeable margin can't hurt either.
My post on the Mets today addresses this stuff and more.
-by MikeAnd power. The Tigers depend heavily on power.True enough. At first glance they don't have any league-leading homer types, but they do have several guys in double-digits.I gotta add, I've been out here in MI five years, and the baseball has been dismal. It's really fun this year with the Tigers playing the way they are. It's like the Morgan Magic Sox the way they are pulling out games on a regular basis...
-by Mister Furious

"Can anyone tell me how the palestenians accept to live liek this ? what kind of a government that has no dignity, controled by Israel, no army, no police, no life, no future, and they still say it is a country and a government, SHU HAL MASKHARA, CLOSE THIS STUPID GOVERNMENT AND CARRY ON THE WEAPONS AND FIGHT, FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT, FINISH THIS THEATER, LOT OF MONEY, LOT OF DEAD PEOPLE, BIG TRAGEDY, HOW MANY YEARS YOU WILL STILL BE LIKE THIS, LOOK WHAT HAPPENED IN LEBANON, THEY DEFEATED ISRAEL, BUT AT THE END MOST OF THE PALESTINEANS AR E KHAWANA, , KHAWANA, WE ARE SICK OF YOU AND YOUR NEWS, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING, ALWAYS CRYING FOR MORE HELP FROM OTHER ARAB COUNTRIES, LIKE A BABIES, YOU ARE PLAYING WITH THE FUTURE OF A WHOLE GENERATION, ITS BETTER FOR YOU TO DIE THAN LIVING LIKE THIS, WAKE UP WAKE UP.Sandmonkey posts a text message discussion he had with a friend over the events and why they are occurring, they agree that the radical wing of Hamas led by Khaled Meshaal is responsible. There was another al`Arabiya commenter quoted:
THANKS ALARABIYA FOR POSTING."
"walla, what did hamas expect, they should stop acting like children, and then cry for the world to help them after they get themselves into trouble. The people in gaza have enough troubles than to be occupied again due to the stupid, irresponsible actions of hamas idiots."The Sandmonkey ended with this sad thought:
Yeah, sooner or later this will be over, one way or another!
sigh....
Well, I can’t see enough from B’s talk to be sure about his views.
It’s clear that if the Palestinians had a leader like you or like Sadaat, then by now they’d not only have a country, but a flourishing, thriving one and their only battles with Israel would be in football and in soccer.Speaking as an Israeli, even while rooting for the Israeli teams, I’d applaud the Palestinian teams when they win, cheering them for having come a long way.
As it stands, I think Olmert is less than useless and that Israel should have declared that by killing two soldiers and kidnapping a 3rd from Israeli territory, Hamas has carried out a hostile act of war (as opposed to simply letting other groups fire rockets into Israel and blow up civilians). Israel’s response should have been:
A: To declare a full scale war on Hamas. If Gaza wants war, then Gaza will look like a war-zone! (Of course, the war will also include Islamic Jihad, Al-Aqsa Brigades, etc).
B: To give a deadline. If the soldier isn’t returned alive ’till then, the war will begin.
C: To declare the war will stop immediiately once the soldier is returned.
D: To explain that if the soldier is killed, the war will continue until there’s not enough left of Hamas to bomb. This will severely deteriorate Hamas’s (and others’) capacity to carry out further hostile actions, rocket firings, etc.
When the war begins, immediately begin bombing Hamas targets, from foot-soldiers to Hamas ministers.
I’m sure there are several Hamas officials who are in no mood to be next to die in military strikes and there’s a good chance they’ll act to free the soldier, citing “for the benefit of Palestinians” in order not to let it be too obvious they’re trying to save their own lives.Either way, a future Palestinian Authority government will think ten times over before kidnapping anyone. Indeed, before participating in any hostile action.
No doubt, many (most, perhaps) of this blog’s readers will now either hate me or tell me that “this would only make Palestinians more extreme bla bla bla”. I could answer that, but my comment is already too long.
-by anonymous
Israel kept repeating that it is in a state of war to justify the extrajudicial killing and the murder of bystanders during this process. Now, in a state of war this soldier can not be called a kidnapped hostage he is a war prisoner. I believe that the only good thing that a government that cares for its citizens should do for a war prisoner is a prisoner swap not shelling the places where he might be kept! I think that the Palestinian in this particular case behave more rationally than Israelis do. There are 800 Palestinian detainees without charges, 300 women and 100 children below 16 in Israeli prisons. So the Palestinians captured an Israeli soldier to negotiate a prisoner swap. What is so infuriating in this?SM, I do not think Israeli government worry that much about its people otherwise they would have done something effective, i.e. negotiate, to free the other prisoner who was executed yesterday. Olmert will exploit this case to show that he is a tough guy who can order the killing of tens of Palestinians to avenge the killing of an Israeli. The Israeli public would forget that the life of this human could have been saved by releasing some Palestinian women and children serving times without charges.
-by Amgad
Israel gave up on the peace process and opted to wall itself off from Palestine instead. Palestinians have yet to come to grips with that. They still think Israel gives a diddly squat whether they declare jihad or not. Fact is,Israel will sit securely behind its wall,while making periodic incursions to gather rockets and militants. Palestinians only hurt themselves with continued militancy. Until Palestinians get their minds right,there will be one economic hardship after another.
-by Perry“SM, I do not think Israeli government worry that much about its people otherwise they would have done something effective, i.e. negotiate,”LOL
“something effective” - “negogiate” with Palestinian Arabs. Can you point to a single example of where that method worked?
“to free the other prisoner who was executed yesterday.”_Murdered_. I doubt the Hamas government wants responsibility for the death. An “execution” is when the government or other authority does it. But they will probably deny involvement.
“Olmert will exploit this case to show that he is a tough guy who can order the killing of tens of Palestinians to avenge the killing of an Israeli.”Yeah, because Olmert gets rich by killing Arabs. Everybody knows that.
“Israel kept repeating that it is in a state of war to justify the extrajudicial killing and the murder of bystanders during this process. Now, in a state of war this soldier can not be called a kidnapped hostage he is a war prisoner.”Which just goes to show how much negotiations with Palestinian Arabs are worth. There has been a truce. Kidnapping a soldier during a truce cannot easily be justified by claiming that there is a state of war (there is, but during a truce you are supposed to not act on that).
The same truce, btw, does not mean that Israel is not allowed to hunt down and shoot criminals; unless you want to claim that the Palestinian authority has been denying for years, namely that they and the terrorists are the same people!
You might also want to look up what “prisoner of war” means. The Palestinian authority would have to take responsibility for the act (rather than deny it) and the prisoner would have certain rights (including access to the red cross/star). He could then be exchanged for a Palestinian prisoner of war, IF the Arab side had ever fought the war according to the law (i.e. uniformed fighters that don’t specifically attack civilians).
As it is, the Palestinians are not granting him the rights of a prisoner of war, their government even denies involvement.
I wonder why you are using that as an argument when the Hamas government themselves deny it. That is a bit strange.
-by Andrew Brehm“Olmert will exploit this case to show that he is a tough guy who can order the killing of tens of Palestinians to avenge the killing of an Israeli.”
“No deaths or injuries were reported in the Israeli actions.” (From the quoted AP report)
“Now, in a state of war this soldier can not be called a kidnapped hostage he is a war prisoner.”
Two points to look at here. The soldier was taken in a cross-border raid by the Hamas-affiliated PRC. That in itself is an act of war, initiated by Palestinians. Yes, the soldier is a POW, but not because the Israelis have moved into Gaza. Second, the now dead 18-year-old civilian (reportly killed shortly after he was taken on Sunday) was not a POW. Nor was he a collateral casualty, victim of a stray shot in a combat zone. He was snatched and murdered by Palestinian thugs. No, I am not calling all Palestinians “thugs.” But I am saying that the persons (can’t call them “men”) that did this are thugs, thugs and murderers.
The problem is, these thugs and murderers are apparently the duly elected Palestinian government.
-by Uchuck the Tuchuck
I had a conversation once with a Tunisian about how kidnappings and bombings are just savage and will not change anything. They always make it worse for the Arabs. He said,” Well yea, I agree, innocents should not be killed, but what do you want them to do? They don’t have the means to fight and that is the only thing they can do to revolt.” I said,” So do you consider 911 OK? He replied,” NO, but….” There is always a ‘but’ with us.
-by LeiloutaViable points from both sides, I think.
One basic truth (imho) is that Palestine will not begin to move forward before they lay down their arms and get busy building up a viable democracy.
“But should we just let Israel oppress and mistreat us?” I hear you say… Yes. It worked for Ghandi, it’ll work for you. I’m not particularly pro-Israeli, but considering they don’t kill people from my part of the world and burn our flags and whatnot, they’re certainly higher on the list than their neighbours! However, if the palestinians stopped their foolishness and showed signs of moving forward, western sympathy would quickly turn their way should Israel persist with their heavyhanded treatment of them.
Only the west can help Palestine in it’s struggle for a normal existance, but untill they learn the old “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” this will not happen. Plain and simple.
-by Adam B
What can I say…I started writing several times and deleted it all.The Hamas has made an own goal. Actions have consequences.
-by Fabian
Personally I believe the recent kidnappings will be traced to Syrian influence, trying to prevent peace because without the big evil of Israel oppressing palestinians, Arab dictators will have no enemy to point to to distract people from their abject poverty and misery.
Here’s a look ahead to new, vital scoops.
August 21, 2006: “Super-stealthy surveillance drone emits high-frequency sounds harmful to dogs,” a story announces. “Classified documents personally unsealed by Times editor Bill Killer reveals the new generation of spy drones cause dogs to run in circles, barking uncontrollably.” Asked whether this might cause terrorists to start keeping dogs, a Times spokesman said it was unlikely, as they struck him more as cat people.
What’s more, they probably assumed they were being watched. The spokesman referenced the Times story on classified satellites that could see through roofs at night from space, unless the roofs were covered with two layers of aluminum foil. “Thanks to that story,” the spokesman added, “the satellite has only been used one-tenth of the time, which adds considerably to its longevity.” He also referenced a story on Baghdad’s booming aluminum-installation trade as one of those “good news” stories bloggers are always demanding.
He concludes with an examination of what finally upsets Times readers and what drives them away:
Jan. 27, 2008: Keller’s replacement announces that the New York Times will begin running comic strips. Four full pages, from Garfield to Blondie.
New York intellectuals are finally horrified. Subscriptions are cancelled in droves.
If you haven't been reading James Lileks, do. And check out his books, my brother has three and they are all three hilarious.
WESTERMARK CORNER
Monday in the US Supreme Court decision Randall v Sorrel the court held that restrictions on campaign finance are a violation of free speech. This decision overturned a circuit court Buckley v Valleo ruling in Vermont in 1976. In his SCOTUS dissenting opinion, Justice John Stevens wrote: "As Justice White recognized, it is quite wrong to equate money and speech... Accordingly, these limits on expenditures are far more akin to time, place, and manner restrictions than to restrictions on the content of speech. Like Justice White, I would uphold them "so long as the purposes they serve are legitimate and sufficiently substantial."Eugene Volokh examined this decision on Opinion Journal online:
Excellent concise, logical analysis by Mr. Volokh. Would it be possible to replace Justice Stevens with Mr. Volokh? The logic used by Stevens in his dissent is very effectively counter-argued by Mr. Volokh in his brief analysis.So if campaign finance restrictions and advertising bans are not the answer, what is? Quite simply, if government was not so big and not so expansive, then the desire to corrupt, spend so much, and influence politicians at the federal level would be proportionally reduced. Strip the federal government down to constitutional levels, and you wouldn't need finance reform as much.
-by Jeff Idhe
Professor Volokh's reminder that money is not the equivalent of free speech is a useful rejoinder as we reflect on the meaning of Randall v. Sorrell. Money is money, that's all; but with it you can buy things like television ads or a megaphone. If restrictions on giving away money threatens free speech, you can argue that spending limits threatens all our rights: abortion, education, national defense. We must tread lightly regarding the care and handling of money as a manifestation of inalienable rights.
-by Michael Mccaffrey
The fact is, whether it is 1787 and printers are being paid to print hand bills for a campaigning politician or it is 2006 and television networks are paid to run a commercial for a campaigning politician, money is, and always has been involved in promoting the ideas within a democratic election. Free speech is not, nor was it ever "free."
Whether one shouts from the roof tops or puts it in writing and copies it a few hundred thousand times, free speech requires energy to produce it. When certain elite individuals decide to control how much energy is used to produce free speech, free speech is, by definition, regulated. I am currently told that I am not allowed to listen to certain people a certain number of days before an election--for my own good.
Please, show me in the United States Constitution where that is written. When you make the act of producing free speech criminal, you have conceded we are not free people. This is not rocket science, Justice Stevens, there will always be an expense in telling one's message whether it is in the form of lung power or dollar bills. Why is that so hard for you to understand? There is and always will be a cost in producing communication, whether it is outward and visible or driven under the table by well-meaning authority figures such as yourself. Do not limit my speech.
-by Robert J. Sciolino
I'm convinced that many of the people who are so fervently "protecting" our rights are merely doing it for their own economic reasons.
What if we limited the amount that a woman could pay for an abortion? After all, shouldn't poor people have "equal access" to abortions? By making all abortions essentially non-profit, we would quickly find out who is "protecting a women's right to choose" primarily for their own economic reasons.
Likewise, what if attorneys were prevented from reaping a large percentage of "economic losses" in medical malpractice cases since those losses are based on projected loss of income? If an attorney gets 30% to 50% of this, the victim gets only a portion of his loss covered.
Most of these folks are merely exercising free enterprise; I'm all for that, however, we need to remember this when they start howling about "protecting the rights of others."
Likewise in the campaign finance debate. Who are we protecting by limiting campaign expenditures and/or contributions? Maybe we should concentrate on exactly who is baking certain candidates rather than limiting how much they are donating.
-by Glenn Rowan
Perhaps the fact that campaign spending limitations are passed by politicians all of whom are incumbents is the most convincing proof that, in fact, "money is speech." Incumbent legislators spend considerable sums of taxpayer money as part of their office budgets to communicate early and often with constituents to tout their credentials and promote their continued incumbency. By the time elections roll around, they can afford to live with some cleverly crafted restrictions on campaign spending as the price for outflanking potential challengers.
When this taxpayer financed scheme is denoted, they then dissemble, claiming that in doing so they do not engage in campaigning, but rather "constituent relations." Next they'll suggest that bears don't relieve themselves in the woods either.
-by Fred Medero

Only garnered 66 votes, rather than required 67.
But that's all a good blogger with a vital commenter community needs for a good discussion to get going. In that discussion, a commenter named Jack M. had some excellent thoughts on the topic:
BrewFan and C.Taylor are essentially getting to the point of the Rehnquist written dissent in the 5-4 case characterizing flag burning as speech.
Rehnquist wrote (and I'm trying to go from memory so it may not be exact) that flag burning was essentially meaningless, i.e. that it was no more than an "inarticulate grunt" while political speech was an "articulate roar".
Personally, I am sympathetic to the dissenters in the case. The problem with classifiying "flag burning" or "cootch grinding" or "cross burning" as protected political speech is that the message is usually left to the recipient of the message to determine. To cop a phrase from Goldstein, while the flag burner may have "intended" to convey one message, the recipient may receive quite another.
As an example: if you see someone walking down the street and they are burning the flag, what message is being sent?
Are they a moonbat protesting the Iraq War?
Are they a neo-nazi protesting American ties to Israel?
Are they protesting the IRS code for taking too much or too little?
Are they protesting the death penalty?
Are they protesting porous borders?
Are they protesting the lack of immigration amnesty?
Are they just casting a blanket "I hate the US" message?And on and on. You really have no idea what "political speech" they are suggesting. Taken alone, you don't even know from observing their act, that you don't agree with them!
I believe that political speech must convey sharper meaning to the recipient. One must be able to read, or hear the message and process the information being sent. Think of it as "strict interpretaion" methos for analyzing political speech.
The minute you start allowing meanings to be whatever a recipent determines it to be, is the minute that the act loses all meaning whatsoever, except to serve as a base provocation. It devolves from an "articulate roar" to an "inarticulate grunt".
Just my two cents. I would have voted to pass the amendment and allow the states (the majority of which had statutes criminalizing flag burning prior to the USSC's intervention) to take up the issue.
I agree with his problem here - just as he agrees with my previous point on the site. How is this free speech? Nothing is actually being "said" either by word or deed, other than a very generalized act of offense. The founding fathers did not mean this kind of thing with the 1st amendment, and I reject the notion that - for example - burning a cross is not free speech but burning a flag is. Neither is in my opinion, and I finally reject the steady, incremental amendment of the constitution by judges making decisions for the last 50-100 years.
We have a system to amend the constitution, we just saw part of it in action. 4 lawyers in black robes making a decision is not part of that system. There should be no amendment neccessary, this ought to be up to the states to ban or allow as their voters see fit. That's the American way.
Commenters at Ace had a great discussion of the topic, including these thoughts (although many apparently thought the decision went the other way, the minority being opposed to the amendment):
I gotta side with the minority I think.
I get as pissed as anyone seeing the U.S. flag desecrated (to the point of physical confrontation), but hell if I want to see that desecration banned.
It is ultimately free speech in my book.
-by Krakatoa
I wanted it to pass. There is nothing wrong with Americans wanting to protect a national symbol. We don't allow the Washington Monument to be spray painted. This fallacy that protecting the flag somehow erodes our freedom is a bunch of hogwash. You mean to tell me somebody can't make the same point without burning an American flag?
-by BrewfanYou mean to tell me somebody can't make the same point without burning an American flag?
Honestly? yes.
The mental midgets burning flags can't make their points outside of an act designed to garner the most visceral response.
GOTC mentioned the irony in their act. It is to our credit that we permit them to do what they do, and allow them to be rebutted by the inherent hypocrisy in burning our flag by way of protest.
It is emblematic of the strength of our constitution and our civilization that we can endure such juvenile acts with stoicism and no small amount of ridicule.
-by krakatoa
The Washington Monument is just that, a monument. Its status as a publicly-owned piece of property (but not as a symbol of the United States) prevents it from wanton spraypainting by vandals. If you own something in this country, there is little if anything you cannot do with it so long as you don't subject others to harm or nuisance. (And do note that "nuisance" is used as a legal term of art, not in its looser plain English sense.)
You mean to tell me somebody can't make the same point without burning an American flag?Most people embroiled in poltical arguments the nation over could probably find a better, more elegant, or less offensive way to make that argument; that doesn't mean we should compel them to do so. The only crime they commit is one of taste. In fact, I agree with James Taranto that flag-burning has the prophylatic effect of allowing us to quickly identify and label the idiots.-by Jeff B.
Please explain to me how flag-burning is a 'freedom'.The flag is not the country. It is a symbol. And, as such, means a lot of different things to different people.You don't like those that burn flags. Great. Neither do I. But I also think it says more about them that they want me to know.
And, please, how do you expect to enforce this ruling? Once you forbid it, you only incite the desire of those who want to get noticed, even if it means their spending time in jail.
Or should they be put to death?
-by wiserbud
Burning the flag, obnoxious as it may be, is nothing more than expression of one's first amendment right to freedom of speech.Chalk me up for a nay, and can we please turn our attention to more serious matters like preventing a million f*cking illegals from rushing across our border this year?
Anyone, Republicans? Hello? Bueller?
I'm sorry I can't get with you guys who somehow think letting a revered symbol be desecrated is altruisticYou're right. Desecrating the image of Muhammed by portraying him in cartoon form should be illegal.Er....wait.
-by The Warden
F*cking designated hitter is an abomination and a blaspheme against Abner (praise be upon him). We are talking about America's game, something many if not most American's revere. Nothing is more American than baseball, apple pie and Chevrolet.Still, probably not a good idea to pass a constitutional amendment banning the DH.
-by JackStraw
Then should we have the right to burn the rainbow flags that the eco-freaks gay rights freaks carry around and we should also have the right to burn the UN flag as well and we should have the right to hang and burn a effegy of all those rotten left-wing senators after all its freee country still
-by Spurwing Plover
Actually, Bubba, the answer to your question is both yes and no.While you could not be punished for the odious act of burning the flag (per se, although you conceivably could be punished for lesser offenses, such as demonstrating without a permit) you COULD in many jurisdictions be prosecuted for committing a hate crime with regard the similarly despicable act of cross burning.
So burning the cross: prohibited speech, even if arguably it may or may not be a political statement, and not a constitutionally protected right. Burning the flag: allowable speech, even though it arguably may or may not be political speech, and constitutionally protected.
The lesson...to avoid run-ins with the law, burn flags, not crosses.
-by Jack M.
I have to go with the no ammendment folks as well. Speech is speech and should be protected. I can hate the burners, I can write or speak out against them and their ideas, but ban their speech? No.Address my question; how does a law against flag burning erode individual liberty? If you're going to argue 'free speech' you'll have to tell me why you should be allowed to yell 'Fire' in a crowded movie theatreNot directed at me, but well, who cares.
Anyway, first, arguing that flag burning is speech does not equate to shouting fire in the theater. One is obviously a public danger and a lesson in the need for discretion and the second is well, speech.As to why such a law or ammendment would erode liberty, I just can't believe it's not apparent. I am a patriot, therefore I support no ammendment. I support the free expression of ideas, even ones -especially ones- I disagree with. Any attempt by the government to limit the free expression and exchange of ideas unless public safety/health or national security are at issue is too much. What comes after the flag? What's the next thing we're not allowed to say or talk about? What form of expression will be made illegal next?
-by msl
It's like the the definition of marriage amendment: most people agree with the sentiment and yet it's never going to pass the senate and get ratified by enough states.. It's just the repub senators posturing and saying, "See how conservative we are? Never mind how we've f*cked up since the last election, this shows we are truly conservatives!"I would have preferred they show us by less spending and permanent tax reductions, but hey, that takes real discipline.
On the plus side, it drives the liberals crazy to called on their anti-americanism, so I guess it's worth it to bring it to a vote.
-by Log Cabin
I just believe that the crime (and I do believe it to be a crime) of burning our flag should not be solved by adding an amendment to the Constitution.You cannot change people by passing laws that require them to be decent, no, just not a good way to go about it. The nation is still suffering from knee-jerk civil rights laws that, while offering an instant looking solution to a problem, in reality have done much to make the overall situation less tenable.
If you want statutes against flag burning, it should be addressed at the state and local level, that's my take on it.
In the meantime, if I ever seeing someone attempting to burn the flag that some of my friends fought, were wounded and died for, that miscreant will have to deal with me.
I think they'd much rather have dealt with John Law at that point, don't you?
-by The Machine
For more information on US flag burning around the world, the Flags of all Countries website has a map of countries old glory has been burned in, as well as a massive flag-burning picture archive.

According to an article in the Daily Variety, the new film will be a prequel to the original Star Trek series, featuring younger versions of characters like James T. Kirk and Spock. The movie will chronicle events such as their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and their first mission into outer space.
Trekweb has a report that's being discussed several places, that Matt Damon is being looked at to play the young Captain Kirk. Personally I think he's a bit long in the tooth to play a school kid at the academy. Supposedly Damon even talked to William Shatner about the part and is excited, if reports can be believed. Trekweb reports:
Will MATT DAMON get beamed up? Could happen. I'm told J.J. ABRAMS is very interested in casting the Oscar-winning Damon as a young Captain Kirk in the upcoming 'Star Trek' movie that he's directing and producing. He's so interested that he's apparently already sought support from the original Kirk, WILLIAM SHATNER. "Shatner gave his blessing," my source says. "J.J. got his approval." Damon first popped up in Trekkie circles as soon as the Abrams-'Star Trek' deal was announced. Rumor had it that the new movie would center on Kirk and Spock's early days at a space academy. "J.J. wants Damon as Capt. Kirk," my source reports. "He really loves the idea."
Let me guess...Affleck as Spock....From the Trekweb blog, these comments:
-by Art
can..not.. con...tain... joy. this is too good to be true so many loves combining into one.
to 100% completely nerd out, i also have to add that i think wesley crusher was the hottest thing since shatner, but matt damon will obviously blow him away.
-by ZaSu
Did you put this picture up just to show his teeth. Look at that toothy grin. Goober. They are nice and white, pretty uniform, but those front two have a bit of a wierd angle to them. However, I wouldn't kick those teeth out of bed.
-by Marley
Will MATT DAMON get beamed up? Could happen. I'm told J.J. ABRAMS is very interested in casting the Oscar-winning Damon as a young Captain Kirk in the upcoming 'Star Trek' movie that he's directing and producing. He's so interested that he's apparently already sought support from the original Kirk, WILLIAM SHATNER.Well, I can see a physical resemblence between the two actors (Matt Damon and William Shatner) and Damon is a much stronger choice (acting wise) than his evil twin, Ben (Just Call Me 'Todd') Affleck. Now, here's hoping they sign Michael Richards to play a young, socially awkward, Mr. Spock.
-by Von Bruno
Shater defines the Kirk role. Every Captain after him has been a very pale imitation. No one has really pulled off the role (although Sisko came close).
Vulnerability. Charm. Pigheadedness. Hamming it up. Defending his friends till the ends of the universe. Physically beating up every powerful bad guy ( no matter how strong they were). Outwitting computers. Loving women.
He's the only one who could do it all. Picard was far too serious. The only contemporary analogy we have for captains are sea faring captains ( and so much of the Star Trek model is based on the sea faring tradition , including Roddenberry's original vision of Hornblower analogies.). And anyone with even modest experience there can tell you the Captains resemble Kirk far more than they do Picard or the buttoned up personality-free, vanilla successors. Flaws, warts and all- no human is free of them (except for the hokey Captains written into subsequent series).
Anyway, you cant put another actor in for Kirk, no matter how talented. You are better off putting in a new Captain and make him the vanilla-Captain-of-the-week who has all the Starfleet regulations memorized and never does anything wrong (like screw a woman on his ship). That way atleast you wont hurt the franchise- even though you wont do anything to further it.
On the other hand, you could introduce a new Captain who is such a rogue that he makes Kirk look like a saint. I think that would infuse some new personality and energy into the franchise and dispense with the 'holier than thou' Federation gospel. It's hard to see how in a universe full of aliens willing to slaughter you on sight you would remain boy scouts.
-by psp1
I feel the same way about Matt Damon as Parker and Stone do. It will probably be the only Trek film I won't see as I would rather read a bad Trek paperback than try to suspend the amount of disbelief I would have while watching Damon try to be a young Kirk.
-by Cylyklon
Oh dear, I guess this pretty much confirms the rumor that Trek XI will in fact be the Starfleet Academy concept Harve Bennett and Rick Berman were pushing. I was hoping Abrams' rather ambiguous comments on this opened the door for this to be something else.
I still say doing a prequel like this is gonna be a huge miscalculation....
Damon as Kirk? Meh. Then again, I'm of the opinion no one will satisfy the masses in the role. And if you think this is bad, wait till they start casting Spock ...
-by SB2004Where's the confirmation? Matt Damon is 36. He's far too old to be an academy cadet.
Oh dear, I guess this pretty much confirms the rumor that Trek XI will in fact be the Starfleet Academy concept Harve Bennett and Rick Berman were pushing.
I'm of the opinion no one will satisfy the masses in the role.How many people are in the 'masses'?
There were those who believed no one could replace Sean Connery as James Bond. And 40+ years later that franchise is alive and well.
People want to be entertained, no matter who occupies the roles of iconic characters. I am of the belief that people understand that this is just a movie and these are just actors and an actor will play a role once occupied by another actor. It's all about being entertained and willing to accept that when a theater swipes your credit card for admission.
-by Capricorn Two
This doesn't make sense. Captain Kirk was in his early thirties by the time he got command of the Enterprise. Matt Damon is already in his late thirties. How can he pass as a college aged cadet?
Also, if this is purported to be about Kirk and Spock during their academy years, that too, doesn't make sense. If you look at the time line, Spock is considerably older than Kirk. He was serving under Captain Pike around the time Kirk was academy age.
Just an observation.
-by Captain Chris
Well duh, what man wouldn't "love" the idea of Matt Damon playing a younger version of himself?
That's right up there with, "Oh, we're fresh out of five dollar bills. Guess I'll have to give you a twenties in change. Do you mind?"
-by fizzymaster
The NY Times Sunday Styles section takes a loving look at Robert Kennedy, environmental activist turned election fraud expert.
Dead Tree readers will see that the Times is hyping Kennedy's recent Rolling Stone article accusing the Evil Republicans of election fraud in 2004. That comes through less strongly in the web presentation, but a bit of the flavor is here; I don't see the Dead Tree photo of the Rolling Stone article anywhere on the web.
He has repeated the accusation on Air America, the liberal radio network on which he is co-host of a program, and on a procession of television talk-'n'-shout fests (with Stephen Colbert, Wolf Blitzer, Tucker Carlson, Chris Matthews). Mr. Kennedy is hitching his iconic name to a cause that has largely been consigned so far to liberal bloggers and which nearly all Democratic leaders and major news media outlets have ignored and which, unsurprisingly, Bush supporters have ridiculed. Tracy Schmitt, the Republican National Committee press secretary, accused Mr. Kennedy of "peddling a conspiracy theory that was thoroughly debunked nearly two years ago."We shall not let the NY Times paint with too broad a brush - although I am sure there were plenty of lefty blogs that rallied to Kennedy's fantasy, plenty of other top lefties stayed away (Odd how the Times missed that in describing Kennedy's critics - one might almost think they would like to discredit the lefty blogs as a class in order to preserve their own ascendancy in the liberal pantheon). I will toss in this link as evidence, cite Democratic Mystery Pollster Mark Blumenthal, and move on. Dot org.
[Robert Kennedy] had heard low-grade rumblings about alleged abuses in Ohio, faulty voting machines and minority voters waiting hours in line at the polls. But he remained skeptical, or complacent. "I kept the same kind of deliberate blinders on that much of the media did," he said, bemoaning the news media's relative preoccupation with "Brad and Angelina and the Duke lacrosse team."
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga is sitting on his back porch in Berkeley, Calif., listening to the hummingbirds and explaining his plans to seize control of the Democratic Party.
Oh, his voices hum to him while he fantasizes of global domination. Breaking news. More psy-ops here:
Finally, on page three:When The New Republic's Web site published an e-mail from Moulitsas to a group of friendly activists urging them not to talk about Kosola and thus "starve it of oxygen," Moulitsas went berserk in a blog posting, accusing the venerable liberal journal of treason.
The pressure on Moulitsas—to be consistent, to be pragmatic, to win—will only grow as the fall elections approach. Already, the strain of the spotlight is beginning to show in his growing belligerence and paranoia. When Kosola broke, Moulitsas e-mailed fellow progressive activists, wondering who might be shopping the story. "I've gotten reliable tips that Hillary's operation has been digging around my past (something I confronted them about, btw, and never got a denial), and you know the Lieberman/DLC/TNR camp is digging as well," he wrote, referring to the centrist Democratic Leadership Council and The New Republic. (Aides to Senators Clinton and Lieberman deny the allegations in the e-mails.)MORE: But we love this bit of Kos hagiography:
It was the Iraq war that got Moulitsas to log on in the first place. He started blogging in 2002, largely out of frustration at how little the mainstream media were criticizing the Bush administration's apparent rush to invade Iraq. "It was a time that was very stifling for liberal voices in the American landscape," he remembers. "No one could criticize the president because it was considered treasonous to criticize the president in time of war." But as an Army veteran who served in artillery logistics in the first gulf war, he felt he could question the rush to combat with impunity. "I vowed my life for the right to criticize our leaders. Nobody was going to tell me I could or could not criticize anybody."
Emphasis added. We respect everyone who volunteers, and soldiers go where they are ordered. However, Kos was ordered to Germany during Desert Shield and Desert Storm, a point not made clear in what is otherwise a hit piece.
Commenters responded:
TM wrote: "One might almost think they [the NY Times] would like to discredit the lefty blogs as a class in order to preserve their own ascendancy in the liberal pantheon."So evidence that the NY Times sloppily mocks lefty blogs is somehow evidence of the Times' liberal bias?
If the NY Times *praised* liberal blogs, that, too, would be evidence of their liberal bias. And in cases, like this specific article, where they are critical of liberal blogs, that also shows their liberal bias. Heads I win, tails you lose. Neat trick.
-by Jim E.
Heads I win, tails you loseNo evidence of NYT bias has been presented. Only speculation on the basis for their actions. "How does action X fit with bias Y"A "Just So" speculation is not an assertion of proof for anything.
-by boris
What are the academic credentials of "Robert Kennedy, environmental activist turned election fraud expert."?Why he's a lawyer. Has he taken any course in environmental science? Ecology? Statistic? Polling? Any type of hard quantitative course work at all?
I doubt it, Robert Kennedy is a jackass, who if he was Robert Smith would be ignored, or mocked.
-by patch
It's interesting that none of the stolen election conspiracy theorists ever mention Wisconson, where Kerry hung on and won by the skin of his teeth (~11,000 votes vs. the ~118,000 vote margin in Ohio). This is a state where we know there was election fraud and a concerted effort to keep specific classes of voters away from the polls. Except, of course, it was Democratic opertives who were convicted of this fraud and it was Republican voters who were its target.Swap Wisconsin's ill-gotten 10 electoral votes and Ohio doesn't even matter.
-by Mogui
And just where east of the Hudson River and west of the Huffington Post is the Kennedy name an icon anymore?Oh, well, at least it keeps Junior off the pork farmers' backs...
-by richard mcenroe
I've noticed that Markos makes much of his status as a veteran, frequently juxtaposing his service against that of the so-called 101st Fighting Keyboarders, Chickenhawks, et cetera.The chickenhawk argument has been thoroughly discredited. But the 101st Fighting Keyboarders is too good a turn of phrase for them to not use. So I expect Markos will continue to make much of his service., too much, I fear - and I say that as a veteran myself. (USAF, 208x4G, 4 years and a couple months, two tours Osan, honorable discharge, longer than 4 year stint due to extending a short tour overseas and having to have one year stateside)
This is an interview Markos gave to the Boston University alumni mag back in 2004.
The Partisan Bostonia, Fall 2004
The interview covers a wide range of topics, Markos's military service among them.
Markos says in the interview:
“My {Markos's} unit didn’t deploy because the war ended so quickly,” Moulitsas says. “But there is a kind of introspection and self-examination that knowing that you’re about to head out to war forces on you. Our vehicles were in the Gulf; we were ready to go. "That forms a basis of a lot of my antiwar views, the fact that I was in a position of potentially heading to war.”Well, then. Basically, like a lot of people who served, Markos graduated from high school and joined the U.S. Army basically to pay for college. He served in the artillery from 1989 to 1992 and narrowly missed being sent to the Middle East during the first Gulf War.
Markos gambled and won, in the sense that he got the educational benefits he wanted to 'escape Chicgo' but didn't have to fulfill that 'war' requirement that lurks in the back of his (and everybody else's) service contract.
There's nothing wrong with that - I chose to go in after high school and use my benefits for both college - but it does shed some light on Markos's subsequent claims about his service.
What's surprising to me is that Markos, given his childhood background of stepping over fresh corpses in the Salvadoran market, was surprised to find that the US Army truck with the big tube shaped thingies that launched multiples of rockets which he was trained to use was there for a reason ... a war reason.
I'd point out gently to Kos that 'swiftboating' is entirely dependent on the veteran being 'swiftboated' making exaggerated claims about his or her military service.
Just sayin'.
See you at the VFW, Markos.
-by BumperStickerist
As always Rick's astute mind boils the issue down, it's the scramble for the top of the pig pile. Markos has acquired power. The Times wants more influence and power and will do anything to get more of it. That includes Kos and Bush. Politics is about two things, money and power. Not necessarily in that order.
-by Beto Ochoa
So the RNC had Diebold blocking telephone calls in NH during the election and this caused global warming?
-by jerry
As for Kos having been a soldier and hence immune to being criticized, the inimitable Ann Coulter points out the flaw in that logic; Benedict Arnold had been a great militry hero to Americans during the Revolution.Until, he turned and offered his services to the enemy.
-by Patrick R. SullivanPatrick,
I'm drawing a finer distinction - Markos's own characterization of his service is changing, it's becoming Kerryified.
By 2008 my bet is we'll be treated to a guy who was stationed in Germany posting about his recollections of his feelings during war and the solidarity he felt with his comrades in arms as the shells came in.
At some point, Markos'll produce a hat.
-by BumperStickerist
Kennedy apparently makes a lot of his argument based on the exit polls. The theory seems to be that they were so far off that something underhanded must have been done by the Republicans.But of course, the final results were extremely close to the last polls before the election, which showed Bush winning in places like Ohio by something very close to the level he actually won by. But instead of blaming the exit polls, like anyone with any statistical background would, and esp. in view of known attempts by Democrats to game them, he blythely assumes that they were right, and the polls right before the election, as well as the actual election results, were wrong.
Interestingly, it was Cheney who first questioned the exit polls on election night in the White House. He said something to the effect that he had been around politics and polling long enough to know that you can't reach into such early, biased, and incomplete numbers and expect to get anything meaningful out of them. (I can get the exact quote if anyone is interested).
-by Bruce Hayden
The thing I love most about the NYTs Kennedy story is the detail that Larry and Laurie David encouraged Kennedy to look into it.
I love the idea that they are just stewing over what must have happened in the far away land of Ohio, bolstered in their conviction the election was stolen because nobody they know voted for Bush.
-by May Bee

Their sound was somewhat progressive hard rock, with albums The Warning and Rage for Order establishing a unique sound for the band in opposition to bands like Cindy Lauper and Quiet Riot. But it was in 1988 that Queensrÿche really took off with Operation: Mindcrime, a concept album about an anarchist used by a mysterious backer. Full of woe, sorrow, drug use, prostitution crime, and angry cries against the system, Operation: Mindcrime was a gritty dark look at the wrong side of the streets. The music was a tight consistent theme and variations, with powerful lyrics and a gripping concept, and Queensrÿche was suddenly on the map for the world to see. Many fans consider Operation: Mindcrime to be Queensrÿche's best effort to date.
What happened to the band? After putting out four increasingly great albums, they lost it. Was it DeGarmo's departure (he's now a commercial airline pilot)? Was it too much success that made them lose their way? When Geoff Tate joined the band, it was reluctantly because he didn't want to do metal. Perhaps his influence changed their direction and the band lost it's feel. I wonder if DeGarmo wasn't their best influence, and as he lost his ability to shape the band's music and direction he decided to leave.
10 years ago yesterday, the Khobar towers were car bombed and 19 American soldiers died. The Airforce Magazine online has the history of this terrible event, and to date none of the terrorists thought to be responsible have been brought to justice. The Khobar Towers sewage truck exploded with a force equal to at least 20,000 pounds, and perhaps as much as 30,000 pounds, of TNT. The building had been partially evacuated because roof sentries noted something suspicious about the truck being abandoned where it was.
Of course, the L.A. Times was told, as was the New York Times, that the program was legal and that it did have safeguards. Indeed, extensive evidence of strict controls was presented to both newspapers. I document this in a separate post published today, here.In this case, the government significantly expanded its ability — not just its ability but the amount of monitoring of international bank transfers that it was doing, and it did it through a legal method, the administrative subpoena, that meant it never had to go before a judge to ask permission to do this.
We wanted them to — we wanted to give them also an opportunity to tell us, “Is this legal? Are there safeguards? When people tell us, ‘this really makes me feel like it may be overstepping the proper bounds,’ are they right or are they wrong?”

we learn over time, uh, whether this story had an effect in either direction — whether the story actually did have any negative effect on counterterrorist efforts.What then? What if he made the wrong choice? The problem is he used his power to do something he has no power to undo.
-by MayBee
I think one question to ask is would the New York Times and LA Times have published this story if Bill Clinton was president?Hidden within the answer is a hint as to why the credibility of both papers, along with their circulation, continues to decline.
Whether one believes the publication was right or wrong, I think the bigger issue is that nobody believes anymore that either paper would publish stories that would damage Bill Clinton’s administration anywhere near as much as they have published them to damage George Bush’s administration. This isn’t about a principled stand on an issue. Because, silly editors, even when you take a principled stand, WE CANNOT TELL ANYMORE! And that is sad. Because, darn it, I want to trust that when the New York Times or LA Times publishes an expose they are doing it for principles and not just short term political impact. Sadly, I just cannot trust them anymore. Perhaps that is the saddest part of this presidency. Two great papers have squandered their credibility just to politically impact a sitting president they don’t like. How sad.
-by Lone Star Jeffe
So, what would be more useful, if you were operating a terrorist network: the name of one Virginia-based WMD analyst who used to be a covert agent back before the Khobar Towers bombing? [Valerie Plame] Or roadmaps of how the US government monitors telecommunications and financial transactions?
-by Crank
I have a government clearance. One of the issues brought up during the issuance of that clearance was: “What would I do if I saw information that was counter to my beliefs?” My answer then, as now, is that it ISN’T MY INFORMATION! I was not elected to use my privileged position to effect political change. I was hired to do a particular job in which I would be in contact with sensitive information that BELONGS to the Government.The Government collects information in much the same sense as scouts from our earlier and simpler days. The information collected has a value beyond what it cost to amass it. If one of the writers at the Times drove a company truck home to move furniture he may not have a job the next day. What I’m saying, and I am basically addressing those with a clearance that have a burning desire to “be the Condor,” is that they are thieves. If you have a financial situation where 99 of the folks are honest but one thief, that one thief undoes all the honesty of the others.
When a seller of used articles willingly and knowingly assumes stolen goods he becomes a fence. The difference is one of honor not of merchandise. Will the Times be the Fagin of the newspaper world?
No doubt the thieves view themselves as on a higher plateau. One built from the lumber of civic obligation. They would also argue that they were unpaid and a thief usually gains monetarily from his transactions. There are many currencies in this world and if the thieves looked closely they would see that their vaunted “whistleblower” “Condor” motives are just a veneer over the common wood of self interest.
-by Brad
As FBI agents sifted through the remains of Building 131 in 115-degree heat, the bombers admitted they had been trained by the Iranian external security service (IRGC) in Lebanon’s Beka Valley and received their passports at the Iranian Embassy in Damascus, Syria, along with $250,000 cash for the operation from IRGC Gen. Ahmad Sharifi.President Clinton at the time vowed to leave no stone unturned, but never sent any agents to Saudi Arabia to even interview the men. Why? We can only speculate, but it's likely that this would have led to require more strong action than President Clinton was inclined to engage in, even war.
We later learned that senior members of the Iranian government, including Ministry of Defense, Ministry of Intelligence and Security and the Spiritual Leader’s office had selected Khobar as their target and commissioned the Saudi Hezbollah to carry out the operation.

The adage "like a kid at heart" may be truer than we think, since new research is showing that grown-ups are more immature than ever.Specifically, it seems a growing number of people are retaining the behaviors and attitudes associated with youth.
As a consequence, many older people simply never achieve mental adulthoodAmong scientists, the phenomenon is called psychological neoteny.
The theory’s creator is Bruce Charlton, a professor in the School of Biology at the University of Newcastle upon Tyne, England. He also serves as the editor-in-chief of Medical Hypotheses, which will feature a paper outlining his theory in an upcoming issue.
The faults of youth are retained along with the virtues, he believes. These include short attention span, sensation and novelty-seeking, short cycles of arbitrary fashion and a sense of cultural shallowness.
Professor Charlton's thesis is that modern society requires more flexibility and ability to adapt and change to environment than days past due to a rapidly changing world. My parents and grandparents would be baffled by this revelation, having seen in their lifetimes a shift from horses and gas lanterns to computers, atomic power, and the space shuttle. He says
A “child-like flexibility of attitudes, behaviors and knowledge” is probably adaptive to the increased instability of the modern world, Charlton believes. Formal education now extends well past physical maturity, leaving students with minds that are, he said, “unfinished.”
“The psychological neoteny effect of formal education is an accidental by-product — the main role of education is to increase general, abstract intelligence and prepare for economic activity,” he explained.
“But formal education requires a child-like stance of receptivity to new learning, and cognitive flexibility."
"When formal education continues into the early twenties," he continued, "it probably, to an extent, counteracts the attainment of psychological maturity, which would otherwise occur at about this age.”
...
"People such as academics, teachers, scientists and many other professionals are often strikingly immature outside of their strictly specialist competence in the sense of being unpredictable, unbalanced in priorities, and tending to overreact.”Charlton added that since modern cultures now favor cognitive flexibility, “immature” people tend to thrive and succeed, and have set the tone not only for contemporary life, but also for the future, when it is possible our genes may even change as a result of the psychological shift.
I dispute this analysis, although his conclusions are valid: modern culture is fixated on youth, is largely immature, and suffers from a fixation on the new, the trendy, and has a short attention span while rejecting tradition, wisdom, and stability.
Tim Blair saw this article and quips
Biology professor Bruce Charlton identifies why so many academics, teachers, and scientists are total wads... I can think of one or two locals who validate Charlton’s theory.
Commenters at the site responded about academics:
Bravo, Charlton! So admirably phrased, so keenly relevant to what we see around us everyday in the MSM, Kos, among the Hollywood activist hive, etc, etc. I have often wondered how people, otherwise intelligent and acomplished in their fields of professional endeavor, could wind up walking on all fours and eating grass when it comes to some newsworthy event or some grand political or social theme.
-by paco
I ain’t buying it. Academics are some of the least flexible thinkers around. They are immature because they’re in a safe, no-change, no-risk environment. The people out there, that he describes as ‘cognitively flexible’, that are ‘thriving and succeeding’ sound, to me, like entrepreneurs, investors, inventors and business people. Conservatives, in other words.This whole theory is yet another academic’s crock.
Poor Charlton is just trying to explain why so many of his colleges are such infantile tw*ts, in such a way as to avoid the obvious explanation: that useless, juvenile wankers gravitate to professions (teaching, academia etc) where they will never have to answer to market forces, be competitive, or survive on their own merits.
-by Amos
It sounds like Charlton is saying you should stop thinking in your late twenties. That it is perverse to display flexibility in thinking beyond that age.Academics earn their crust teaching and doing research - how on earth can they do that if they don’t think anew about issues?
I work as an academic and I can see sense in his argument - academics can be rather unworldly. But specialisation is inevitable in a university.
BTW, are you a generalist if you stop thinking young and then rely on your wits to ‘hunt’ and survive in non-secure habitats? Maybe - but maybe you become just a cheerleader and remain forever a bit of a dill.
-by harryc
While I agree with his thesis--"People such as academics, teachers, scientists and many other professionals are often strikingly immature outside of their strictly specialist competence in the sense of being unpredictable, unbalanced in priorities, and tending to overreact.”--I don’t necessarily agree with his conclusions. I would argue that expertise, flexibility and vitality are important components of a mature mind. In fact I would argue that those in his study group are noteable for a lack of any real expertise and a dearth of flexibility and vitality in their critical thinking skills. I’m with Amos.
-by Kyda Sylvester
I don’t see the attraction in a youthful and flexible mindset, I hated being young. Every year that passes brings me closer to my dream, being a grumpy old bastard. Bah humbug.
-by Daniel San
[me too. I want to be old and grumpy and have a long white beard]
This Discovery article seems to suggest Charlton considers neoteny (as he defines it) to be a bad thing. Maybe so, but the value-judgments are missing or much softened in his own published article .
To sum up:
1.There is an observed phenomena in the mid-20c of the rise of the boy-genius
2.The characteristics of a boy-genius include youthfulness
3.Youthfulness is an advantageous adaptation to modern culture
4.The neoteny trend will continueBut don’t worry, Daniel San. There’s still a place for you in this brave new world:
But even as whiz-kids dominate mainstream culture, the popularity in modern societies of traditional sources of insight and integration – from Rembrandt and JS Bach to Einstein and Tolkien - implies that a niche will surely remain for the profound repositories of ancient wisdom-by debo.v2
I “work” as an academic also, and there has been a real change in expectations since the golden age of the academic (arguably the 1920s-50s). Academe has been corrupted by the confusion of scholarship and identity politics (see Ward Churchill) and the pressure to publish meaningless twaddle to ensure tenure. The thoughtful, learned polymath has been replaced by the glib, trendy hipster who spouts the latest PC pieties. That’s what the academic market generally rewards, sadly.
-by Mr. Bingley
Many academics have limited life experience because unlike most people they have not had the career changes that develop the cognitive flexibility Charlton identifies. They go from Bachelor’s degree to postgraduate qualification to academic appointment, sometimes all within the one institution, while at the same time their focus of expertise becomes increasingly narrower.More work experience exchanges with the private sector are necessary. Better still, Mao had the right idea. Send them out to work with ordinary people every few years,
in factories or on farms especially for the lefties who profess to be concerned about the workers’ conditions.
-by Mr MagooLet’s not tar all academics with the same brush.
Some of the comments sound like canned, cliched conservative opinion.
For every self-indulgent arts wanker there is a connected engineer/scientist who is passing on the benefits of pure research into commercial enterprise. The benefits of this to the community are enormous.
Consider Fourier (1768 - 1830) who showed that you can approximate any function arbitrarily well by summing the right combination of sinusoidal functions. That was pie-in-the-sky “twaddle” at his time, done purely for its own sake.
Today, Fourier Theory underpins ALL electronic communications devices, including satellite and internet, to name just two. The fruits of this knowledge sit inside every home stereo system and DVD player, inside every piece of electronic medical equipment. The list goes on.
But I agree that Charlton hits the nail on the head for a certain type of academic.
-by closeapproximation
I agree that not all academics are fools and it’s a diverse population etc etc but that kind of goes without saying.What we consistently see is manifestations of a deluded leftist academic culture that insists in meddling in politics outside it’s technical specialties. Stupid, murderous ideas like Marxism linger in these institutions because, as Sowel says, bad ideas tend to survive where they can insulate themselves from reality.
But there’s an element of Conservative prejudice too, so whatever. The point is this ‘mental flexibility’ theory is bunk. The most aggressive, adaptable, flexible and innovative thinkers who are ‘thriving and succeeding’, as Charleton puts it, are not in academia. They’re out there in the big bad world, and they’re a lot more likely to be conservatives, ie. People with a mental map of the world and human nature that matches actual reality instead of some pleasant theoretical utopia.
-by Amos
Amos, That Marxism survives in social science departments is a sign of a university illness. I assume its partly for Sowell reasons but also because Marxism identifies a class of villains and provides a basis (however deluded) for social policy.But it is also a sign that people working in these departments have very little knowldge of economics - many think that the only theories of society that involve economics are Marxist which is wrong.
-by Kalimna
wankers in humanities departments? Surely not. Here’s a comment on a paper of multiskilled one who has no difficulties escaping her academic humanities box and applying her expertise to pressing problems in theoretical physics.
"The privileging of solid over fluid mechanics, and indeed the inability of science to deal with turbulent flow at all, she attributes to the association of fluidity with femininity. Whereas men have sex organs that protrude and become rigid, women have openings that leak menstrual blood and vaginal fluids. ... These idealizations are reinscribed in mathematics, which conceives of fluids as laminated planes and other modified solid forms. In the same way that women are erased within masculinist theories and language, existing only as not-men, so fluids have been erased from science, existing only as not-solids." A comment on the paper - Hayles, N. Katherine. (1992) Gender encoding in fluid mechanics: masculine channels and feminine flows. Differences: a journal of feminist cultural studies. 4 (2), 16 - 44.Another spoke of the need for a “feminist algebra”, but I can’t find the reference.
But the best is still Alan Sokal’s hoax paper
Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity published in the postmodernist journal Social Text #46/47, pp. 217-252 (spring/summer 1996).
And the anguished bleats from the humanities trendies once they discovered they had been conned.
-by whale spinor
as someone who is involved in hard science, I can say that there are ambiguities at any level of inquiry.It is often possible and indeed desirable to argue with a mathematical solution, in as much as the initial problem formulation and modelling (and maybe the solution method) involve decisions and value judgements, eg: what to include and what to leave out. This becomes important for real-world applications of physics, mathematics, etc. as opposed to high school maths experience which involves doing a mass of problems and then checking your answer against the one at the back of the book.
What I mean to say, is that even though, yes, there is only one correct solution to the equation
x^2 + 3 = 0
(no, hang on, there’s more than one, isn’t there...and only if we invent a new type of number, should we really do that ?), the process of modelling, which is the only way that mathematics can be turned into real-world application, is not always so clear-cut.
A good example is climate modelling.
None of this detracts from the fact that postmodernists are wankers. Humanities departments deserve all the sh*t they get for inflicting this upon the academic landscape.
-by closeapproximation
"A good example is climate modelling" It’s also a good example of how climate scientists (or more likely their apologists such as Lambert) have forgotten the nature of science. “The debate is OVAAAHH!” Straight from the Iron Chef. Aristotle may have said the same in 300BC to advocates of heliocentricity but then came Copernicus. The debate continues until the theory is validated by experiment or observation. This still doesn’t make the theory correct, it just means it fits the data at the time of observation. And it’s a smart scientist who can set up a trial to make in situ observations 10 or 20 years hence and report the results today.I read on some climate catastophe blog that the predictions are based on complex but well validated mathematical models. Does anyone have any links to what these mathematical models are? The climate changy papers I’ve read only mention outputs and inputs - nothing about the underlying maths. Is it the standard continuity and conservation equations? 19th century maths, nice but hardly complex. Or is it more?
Interested, but don’t want to pay out lots of $’s to Springer etc collecting them
-by whale spinor
The problem is that this professor is defining maturity as "inflexibility and stolidity" and immaturity as "flexible, changing, adaptive." With that as your basic model for life, all manner of confusion and poor conclusions may be reached. The fact that this man is labeled an "evolutionary psychologist" might explain some of the way he understands maturity.
The theory postulates that an evolved creature is further along than it's predecessors and is established in a niche in the world, no longer needing to change. Change comes when the world becomes impossible to be successful in and the creature mutates to face this (or just dies), which means new and youthful creatures are changing to fit their world and old and unchanging creatures are unable to deal with the world.
I think maturity has to be defined a bit differently to make sense of people. Very mature, older and stable people can be very adaptive, in fact when someone gets so old they adapt poorly, they often take on less mature characteristics and seem more childish. Maturity is not a lack or abundance of flexibility and adaptability, it is wisdom, discernment, experience, and the ability to make appropriate choice and react properly to situations. I can't argue with the idea that people are more immature today, but for those very reasons, not what Professor Charlton brings up.
But they were not gone. Former soul stars Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston were reported by Fox News to have ties with this odd cult, which is led by Hulon Mitchell jr, calling himself Yahweh Ben Yahweh. NFL defensive end and college football hall of famer Robert Rozier (calling himself Neariah Israel) was a member as well.
A man who lives across the street from the warehouse described the suspects as an unusual group of men, almost cultist, who wore military-style clothes and kept to themselves. The man would not give his name for fear of retribution.
"They reminded me a lot of the followers of Yahweh Ben Yahweh," he said, referring to a cult that flourished in Miami's Liberty City in the 1980s
"They would be gone all day and come back at night to the warehouse to sleep. They sold shampoo and hair grease on the street, just like the Ben Yahweh people," he said. "They were not threatening, but nobody messed with them."It is also speculated that these men were part of the Moorish Science Temple of America, although their stated goal to kill as many white devils as they could seems to conflict with the stated motto of this group: "Uplifting Fallen Humanity by Learning to Love Instead of Hate." But then the Yahweh Ben Yahweh website says "Yahweh Ben Yahweh (in Hebrew characters) is hereto establish peace and good will toward all god-loving men." Of course, that last clause does leave some leeway toward those considered to not be god-loving.
To whom YHWH will judge,She's right, a group of people did go to Northern Africa and enslave and oppress the locals: Muslims. And they are still doing it.
In the 1500's a ravenous people went to north Africa and murdered millions of innocent men, women, and children. Then took the leading remnant of those same people and enslaved them. Made them work in bondage to build an uncultivated stolen piece of land that we now call America.
YHWH told his son Abraham that this would happen to his people and that they would remain in the hands of the ravenous nation for 400 hundred years(Acts 7:6). Once the 400 hundred years was up he would rescue his children out of the hand of the wicked and then in turn judge the wicked for their utter attrocities against his people. Through out history YHWH has sent various differant men to bring his people messages of hope and a feeling that he is still there watching and waiting.
In this day, a day that has been foretold about since the beginning;
the GREAT DAY OF YHWH, is finally at hand. It is the day that YHWH has sent his sons to gather true Israel together and judge Israel's captors. The United States Government made a grave mistake when they interfered with this process. Yahweh Ben Yahweh is one of the men that has been chosen by YHWH to follow through with the prophesied return of YHWH's people to YHWH. Just look at his works, he cleaned up one of the worst cities in America and gave a broken people hope and dignity again. Yahweh Ben Yahweh is the Prince of Peace the one chosen to gather and educate the mentally dead people of YHWH.
The Peaceful One!
The question that really should be asked is; Who is the other son the one that has been given the NON-PEACEFUL task? JUDGEMENT!
The one who YHWH has chosen to rescue Yahweh Ben Yahweh and YHWH's chosen people from this Godforsaken place and then bring down the most horrendous act of GOD that has also been prophecied. Some call it the apocalyse, some call it the great slaughter, some call it YHWH's great day of vengence. Whatever you choose to call it it must come to pass. Moreover someone must bring it to pass.
But Who? This mystery drives the rulers of this wicked nation insane. Yet,the most digusting part of this is that they know that their end is eminent but are refusing to tell the people of America the truth about the things that are happening.
There are some questions that need to be asked but you are not asking the right ones and because you have falsely accused a man of YHWH without knowing or admitting the facts willingly YOU WILL BE JUDGED!!!
Here are some relevant qustions:
>Who are the so-called black people of America?
>Why were they brought here and forced to build this country?
>Why hasn't this nation recognized their vicious hand in all of this and made ammends for their wrong doings against this group of people?
>Is Yahweh Ben Yahweh really guilty of the crimes that this Gov't has accused him of?
>What are some of the things he was doing to help black people before they took him down?
FINALLY
>Who is here to make right what has been wrong for hundreds of years and bring down YHWH's final judgement on the wicked?
-by Deborah

“Until quite modern times all teachers and all men believed the universe to be such that certain emotional reactions on our part could be either congruous or incongruous to it – that objects did not merely receive, but merit, our approval or disapproval, our reverence or our contempt.”Properly responding to an object or an idea is a virtue, and having bias against atrocity is right. The response of the world to the terrorist strikes on 9/11 was shock and horror, as it well ought to have been. The media responded appropriately by showing tributes to courage, outrage at the murder, and nobility of the response by the firefighters, the president, and the people around the world.
Most bias falls into this category. Unintended bias is the kind that results from a worldview or basic philosophy of the reporter or editor. Worldviews are positions that we take on issues without thinking about them. They are the ideals and beliefs we have that are unquestioned, unexamined. In the mathematical science of geometry there are postulates, rules that are not defended or explained, they are simply assumed. Some postulates of geometry are:
In Europe, as well as early in the United States, newspapers are very clear on their bias, some even having names that make this obvious. They will take an editorial stance and openly hold to it when reporting the news. In a way, this is superior to the pretence of balance and fairness, which is fundamentally impossible when human beings are in charge. But surely there is a point at which we can reach where the bias is kept as much at a minimum as possible, and editors work to clean up as much as can be realistically.
This is an important distinction. Bias is often charged from news organizations and what is pointed to is an editorial in the newspaper, an opinion column in a magazine, or an analysis and opinion show. When Maureen Dowd writes a column for the New York Times, she is very biased, but she's not writing a news story, she's writing her opinion, and that's what she gets paid for. When Bill O'Reilly airs a segment in the O'Reilly Factor, he's not giving a news story, even if he summarizes or reports one, he's giving opinion. Too often bias is accused where it is perfectly acceptable and proper.“Yes. I think the press was muzzled and I think the press self-muzzled. I'm sorry to say but certainly television and, perhaps, to a certain extent, my station was intimidated by the administration and its foot soldiers at Fox News. And it did, in fact, put a climate of fear and self-censorship, in my view, in terms of--of the kind of broadcast work we did. I mean, all of us should have...”CNBC's Tina Brown asked her if she meant there was a particular story they she wasn’t allowed to do, and she responded:
“It's not a question of couldn't do it, it's a question of tone."Ms Amanpour on Iraq (video file)
Misleading Imagery
Here's a scientific paper [pdf format] on the centipedes in question.Apparently they're the biggest centipedes in the world: about a foot long (300mm). "Scolopendrid centipedes prey on frogs and toads up to 95 mm long, small lizards, snakes up to 247 mm long, birds up to the size of a sparrow, and both field and house mice." The bats are described as weighing about 17 grams and having forearms about 56mm long. And the cave where all this takes place is appropriately named "Cueva Del Guano."
Other commenters at AOSHQ shared various bug stories and tales, in particular army stories:
In Okinawa, there is a small waterfall called hiji taki (hiji falls) and to get there you have to walk about 2 miles up and down this long path of wooden stairs and paths. While we were climbing a particularly tall stand of stairs, those of us with girlfriends, decided to be "manly" and cary our girlfriends on our backs on the way up the stairs.
Near the top of the stairs, a VERY LARGE had to be at least 9"'s or so centipede popped out, and was on my boot, I kicked the Centipede off, without incident, but my girlfriend FREAKED THE F*CK OUT! throwing herself off of my back, and breaking one of the handrails on the stairs. (not break away, just split and weaken kinda break.) Took All the way to the falls for her to calm down, she got some leafy branches and swept the area that we "picnic'd"/Camped, and would freak out every 10 or 15 minutes, looking for the next monster centipede that is 1/1000th her size to come out of nowhere and kill her.
I thought it was cute, my friend lou, kept, tickling the girls ankles with his fingernails to scare the shit out of them. One thing about japanese girls? When they are pissed? they are quiet, when they are scared? They screach like f*cking banshee's.
Best long weekend I had in Okinawa.
Also, I think that THAT is why Centipedes have 1-3 HD of HP [a D&D reference], even though they are rated as first level monsters.
-by WickedPinto
I have been bit on the ass by one of those basturds, while crawling around under a deck I was assembling. I thought it was a sliver as the sharp poke right in glutius medius. I discovered the rest of the story during my monthly shower. Or should I say I discovered the rest of the body with a death gripped jaw attached to my fat ass. Checked out the boxers and what do we have here. Smaller than Jeffs scale but bigger than an armadillos was two halves of a Mukade/centipede.(Wondered what they called them) I called it something else. Nice black knot under the skin for many months, but now I got the anti-venom basturds.The local inhabitants freak out when they see these f*ckers scurrying along. Never grab a sticky multi-footed universal joint with choppers, especially poisonous ones.
Someday, I'll tell y'all about the bees and from there for you younger ones, the birds.
-by Forest Hunter
Forest - doesn't Japan have those giant hornets? Seems like I saw something on National Geographic, or maybe the Discovery Channel - they looked like something out of Toho Studios from the mid-Fifties.
-by Master Tang
Every rack out on a beach with a japanese girlfriend?In the morning, there are a lot of small bugs that are looking for the left overs from the high tide trying to eat them during low tide, and Shino and Sa, would always RUN! to the car, or too the tent if we fell asleep on the beach after a "long night." in early morning, cuz they couldn't handle being out in the elements.
Watch a japanese girl set up a camping spot. She isn't setting up a tent (the guys do that) she isn't setting up a tarp for eating (the guys do that) they are walking continuously from one end to the other, trying to get all of the sand off of the f*cking beach it seems.
HILARIOUS, at least from the perspective of a Marine or an Army guy who is only a couple weeks out of basic, and field, and tech training. I remember shino finding a tire on the beach, and rolling it up to the f*cking road, so that it would get picked up next time (never) the locals drove by.
It's a sensory invasion for Americans, is Okinawa, at least to those Americans that take part in the culture of Okinawa.
-by WickedPinto
Another Bug story I experienced while I was in OKI.the Cicada's (I don't know the spelling, the big ass bugs, that look like flies, sound like low flying Corsair airplanes) surfaced when I was there in '97.
We were all standing in formation, and I was trying to make a good impression to the new 1Sgt, so I was starched so stiff I had no choice but to stand upright. There was an indifferent Marine who was a friend of mine, who's name I will bastardize at this moment standing in front of me. He was the image of a Marine, he was perfect in his record, a STUD! in his build, kinda like a body builder, and his uniform was perfect.
I kept hearing a sound, (I had yet to see a cycaida (spelling?) at this time) and we were being "pre inspected" by the 1st Sgt. the bug flew over another friends shoulder (his name was yeti (actually eric, but we called him yeti)) and he jumped like a bitch while in formation. I stood still, and then I saw this GIANT BLACK CREATURE WITH WINGS, sounding like helicopter preparing for a crash landing flew in my own direction.
The bug (cycaida) didn't land on me, but it landed on the F*CKING BILL! of the "board Marine" standing in front of me. The bug crawled along the bill for a few seconds, and all the while, I didn't say anything, but in my mind I was thinking "GET OFF OF HIM YOU VILE CREATURE, GET AWAY! YOU HURT MY FRIEND I KILL YOU!!!! SON OF A BITCH!" (MATT!!! that was his first name, I forget his last)
A GIANT F*CKING FLY walked along the brim of his cover, and he didn't even flinch! The bug walked along his bill and then took off, and he didn't violate the position of attention.
After the word "dismissed" he fucking FLIPPED OUT!! "is it on me!?!?! is it on me?!?!?" F*CKING HILARIOUS! and once again completely true.
If you ever experienced cycaida's, they weigh about the same as "superballs," and to have one land on you or fly into you, is a physical experience, and that guy? Not one f*cking flinch. He should have been commissioned on site.
A Big Bad Marine, removed his "blouse" and begged the rest of his platoon for help while he was terrified of a cicayda (spelling) and 34 of us were more than happy to help him, cuz that bug freaked us all the f*ck out.
-by WickedPintoCracks me up watchin the Josans on sand duty and I mean duty, as in mission and never ever stop searching the surface for wayward flecks.
I was cleaning up around a perimeter of a house when I disturbed the entrance to that mother of all hornets house, House hell, condo bigger than a medicine ball. Rank and file boiled from a hatch big enough to fit a golf ball, as I raked away the debris under this Hydrenga bush. Like a rope they poured out into an attack pattern and stayed in formation!(Velly Japanese of them I thought) My fovial vision stayed on them as I back peddled and caught sight of my open windowed truck. F*ck! Front hatch on my love nest also secure and so down the hill, spinning, bobbing and weaving, all the while beating the air into submission with a garden rake. An occasional "Tang!", as contact with one or two close enough to my improvised rotor met Allah.
Pursuit does not adequately describe these demon bugs. I am standing about 60 meters from where we began this dizzying journey. I did more do si do's than an entire night at a square dancing contest! Mother f*ckeen demons from hell you will pay tonight with your lives and your children's. I will eat your babies and like it!
I prepped a fire and damn near ran out of grass to feed it but as the bugs flew into the flame, wings melted and bees on knees were everywhere.
Next morning an inspection revealed a serious gut pile of dead bugs and no lookouts. Cool!
So after you have opened the nest, you pluck the still wiggling, yet a nice smoky color larvae, out from there cribs. Once the 2 liter bottle is full, report to the galley where cooksan has hot pan, shoyu and rice waiting to provide the mornings culinary
delight. About 10-20 seconds in shoyu, mix rice together for your brand new stir fry dish. Yummy goodness!
-by Forest Hunter
I apologize for the language in some of these posts, but military guys are often wont to slip into the vernacular. Swear a lot, in other words, and it wouldn't be the same authentic feel if I edited too much.
The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others.
I believe that one of, not Egypt’s, but Egyptians worst setbacks is a phenomenal increase in intolerance. I am fairly young but I am certainly old enough to see that phenomena grow. Christians, the white man in general, Shia/Sunni, gulf Arabs,…..ect. and of course… The Jew.
It’s bad for morality, business, and growth and it’s got to end. Here is what we are going to do; and as with any good plan it is simple as hell.
Analysis; It is easy to demonize something or someone you’ve never met (There are reportedly 38 Egyptian Jews left in Egypt and while I cant back this up with real statistics I would bet my life that not more than 1% of Egyptians have ever actually met a Jew).
Solution; Meet some Jews.
"Fly some Jews in from around the world (maybe five or six), hold a two day conference at a university"[Personally, I believe a media campaign would be more effective, but I do not believe that One Arab World has enough money to attempt such a thing at this point, so this is a good place to start, now]
This is a good idea.
But I fear most questions asked will be about Palestine, and probably not about real events that actually happen(ed) there.
Perhaps these students should be prepared, like told to only ask questions about events they can reference in western or Israeli newspapers rather than word of mouth? I am being serious here.
But I like the general idea. Good luck!
And I think you are right. It will help Egypt in the long run, perhaps quicke
-by Andrew Brehm
Karim,
I can’t tell you how excited I was when I read your post! The problem however is the anti-normalization discourse which is so abundant in Egypt; the Coptic pope has forbade any followers of the Coptic Church from entering Palestine because of the belief that a visit to Gaza and the West Bank is tantamount with recognition, legitimization, and approval of the Israeli occupation; I think several members of Al Azhar also agree- so anyhow, I think as a first step, this mode of thinking needs to change.
Secondly, you should contact Seeds of Peace, it’s a camp which works primarily with youth for that a similar cause.
Third, I think that those who travel should also be given internship opportunities in whatever field they work in, on the condition that they work with both Israeli’s and Palestinians, i.e. if someone has teaching accreditation, they should work part time at Hand in Hand, (Hand in Hand is a private school recognized by the Israeli Ministry of Education. To date, there are 676 students, divided between nursery school and elementary school: students have doubled in just the past two years and last fall, 120 enrolment requests had to be turned down on account of a lack of space. The school is located in three branches: in Jerusalem, in Galilee and in the Arab village of Wadi Ara. And in the next five years, in consideration of catering to all the demands, ten new schools are expected to be constructed.)
You should also contact Amr Shalakany at AUC’s law school, he used to live in Palestine and could probable help in facilitating you with a couple students who’d be interested.
Keep us updated, MashAllah, I can’t tell you how great an initiative this is!
-by Darcy R.
Karim -
I think you'll have a bit of a legal problem with Part Two. I mean, it could work with Egypt, Jordan and Morocco - but even then the Israelis would be at mortal peril.
Moreover, I am afraid that the potential impact of the suggested program would be miniscule. Maybe if you could get enough sympathetic media coverage, it might have an effect - but given the current status of Arab media, it seems very unlikely that you could do that.
But then again, here's an idea: a reality TV show, possibly in the (admittedly horrid) Big Brother style, with Arabs and Jews from all over the world.
Good luck - and much respect for the initiative :)
-by The Raccoon
I think you have a great idea and it needs to be pushed. "Friendship Forces" and student exchange programs have a long history in the US and most people think nothing of it. But for most of the world the only foreigners are either refugees or tourists, and neither group is likely to inspire much respect or sympathy.
I have personal experience with newly-arrived Muslims from other countries whose anti-Semitism is nakedly obvious and offensive. They reveal their prejudice candidly with no thought that someone Jewish might be present. I think you are correct when you say that most Muslims have never actually met or seen a Jew in person.
-by Hootsuddy
We ask you to join us now in honoring the strength and leadership of the Senators who stood with you:Joining these fools was a lone thundering RINO Republican: Lincoln Chafee. Even was Kerry's absurdist position on the president correct, this would still be an unconstitutional effort to betray our soldiers in Iraq and the Iraqi people. In a way I applaud these Senators for going on record in an election year so that people know exactly where they stand, but I can't bring myself to laud such a pathetic partisan display of a violation of their oath of office.
Sen. Daniel Akaka (D-HI)
Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA), co-sponsor
Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA)
Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI)
Sen. James Jeffords (I-VT)
Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-MA)
Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), co-sponsor
Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ)
Please call, write, or email these Senators and acknowledge their leadership on Iraq.
Let me be absolutely clear. Russ Feingold and I would have forced this vote even if the outcome were going to be 98 to 2. Ending the Bush administration's disastrous approach to this war isn't about counting votes. It isn't about legislative strategy or electoral calculation. It's about applying constant pressure to change a broken course.
Minutes later, the Senate rejected by 60-39 the proposal more popular with Democrats, a nonbinding resolution that would call for the administration to begin withdrawing troops, but with no timetable for the war’s end.Breaking from the Democrats on the issue of withdrawing troops for the sake of saying they voted for a resolution to begin withdrawing troops were Sens. Mark Dayton of Minnesota, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, Bill Nelson of Florida, and Ben Nelson of Nebraska.
86-13 is mostly along party lines? The non-binding resolution doesn’t mean diddly.
-by Additional Blonde Agent
Maybe the Republicans and Democrats could arrange a trade - Chafee for Lieberman. I don;t think there would be any salary cap problems, I hear they make the same $.But Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., said: “It is time to tell the Iraqis that we have done what we can do militarily.”
“Maintaining the status quo ... is a recipe for continuing instability and failure,” Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., said.
So let me see if I have this… the mightiest military the world has ever seen is supposed to throw up its hands and say - “we give up” and leave. And the Iraqis are supposed to then do… what?
And Senator Levin says that if we stay it will cause problems, and by leaving ....?
I guess those two are simply talking to their respective bases - they can’t really be trying to persuade or engage anyone on the fence.
-by Major JohnIt’s about doing what’s right.
Karl Rove may worry about losing votes. It’s our job to worry about young Americans losing their lives. It’s our job to provide a new vision that offers real security for America while giving the Iraqis their best chance for a stable Iraq.
I will keep doing what’s right on Iraq, and I won’t stop until our troops are home and the future of Iraq is in the hands of the Iraqi people.
I know you’ll keep working right alongside me.
Sincerely,
John Kerry
Do you think they sit around the office and laugh out loud like a bunch of immature frat boys while typing this stuff up?
-by N O'BrainThe GOP-controlled Senate on Thursday rejected Democratic calls to start withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq by years’ end...
With this opening, one would expect to see a closer vote.
What!!! 86-13? The majority of Democrats voted against it. Oh, the non-binding proposal ”was mostly along party lines.“ If the AP had a shred of integrity, instead of the gratuitous GOP bashing, it would have looked at why so many Democrats were willing to support only the non-binding proposal.
-by BainsI have been a regular contributer to various Republican campaign committees in the past. However, for the past 18 months, and into the foreseeable future, I return each request with the following message written on them:
“Not until the Republican party stops financially supporting Sen Chafee’s campaign, and instead supports a true Republican candidate for his seat.”
-by Gahrie
You know, even if we do pull out, studies have shown that there’s around a 75% chance Iraq could still get pregnant.
-by ShedMySkin

Steve Jobs has apparently tried to convince the studios to agree to a flat rate of $9.99 per movie, much like the flat $.99 per song model they use for music. This is a no brainer right? Look at how successful the flat rate music model has worked. It's an easy decision for the studios to agree to this right? WRONG!
According to Variety, the studios are willing to charge $9.99 per movie for their oldest and least popular films. However, they want to be able to charge up to $19.99 per movie for the more popular stuff.
"We can't be put in a position where we lose the ability to price our most popular content higher than less popular stuff," said a studio exec close to the negotiations.Commenters responded to this news:
Although i hate the movie studios i dont blame them for wanting more than $9.99 but $19.99 is outrageous 12.99-14.99 would be cool with me.
Who would pay that much(19.99) for something they can go pick up(at a store) with less hassle. not everyone want to spend hours downloading movies but if the price is right its more acceptable.
Also how will this work with movies in high definition the download times would be out of control.
With all the question regarding digital distribution it will be a long time before this will fully catch on but apple seems to really want to be the one who start it with a bang $9.99 would be a steal.
-by Jamie
Ok so this new $19.99 price point would place it where? ABOVE where I pay for most DVDs! Now given I tend to just go to blockbuster and purchase a pre-viewed dvd, but even still! I can almost GUARANTEE to you that these films on iTunes will NOT have any special features, and due to the small screen on the video ipods, or even the rumored redesigned video ipod with a screen size similar to the PSP, they will be far less than DVD resolution. Let alone Blu-Ray or HD-DVD quality.So it looks like the movie studios, who over the last decade or so have been ever so adept at shooting themselves in the foot, are doing so once again.
According to an article I believe on Slashdot, I could be wrong, a $9.99 price point without special features, and without the costs involved in pressing disks, gives a 70% profit margin to the movie studios. This is the same profit margin given to the music studios with the .99 cent downloads, and the same profit margin given to the tv studios, with the $1.99 episode downloads.
This is a LOT of money to be made for the movie studios, even at 9.99! Especially considering the fact that hard drives crash fairly often, and we all know that due to iTunes DRM there is NO way we'll be able to burn a DVD that we can watch on our home televisions. So a lot of people who don't back up their data will have to re-download/re-purchase movies on occasion.
And they want to increase the price point to $19.99?? Forget it. There is no way you could get me to pay that much money for JUST a movie, that I probably wont be able to burn to a dvd to watch on my television.
So thank you once again to an industry that charges $6.00 for a bottle of soda, and $8 dollars for a bag of POPCORN. You've lost your first customer before you even got started.
-by Justin Flood
Sigh,This is all about BIG BUSINESS boys and girls. Do you have any idea how pissed off WAL-MART, Furtureshop/Best Buy, and every other major retailer will be? These guys are already having a hard time stock piling the new TV on DVD wave, taking up all the retail space, and now they are going to be undercut by 10-15 dollars? no way in hell is that ever going to happen.
Is it fair that a basic download should cost as much as a physical disc that looks really pretty and has all the special features? nope, but thats how its going to be. So its not going to work, and trust me, the studios are VERY happy this isn't going to work. They are only playing along right now so that they can say "See, this isn't fiesable for movies, we tried, dont hate us, now all of you, get your fat asses back into the theater, pay $12-$15 dollars and give us back our box office"
If they did relent and go for 9.99 they would make TONS of dough, but its one step closer to what they all dread...movie theaters becoming extinct.
IMHO anyway
-by Norddeth
I cant imagine paying more than 5 - 7 for a downloaded movie, particularly when they are easily downloadable through shall we say other channels for free...If I really want a movie, I will buy the DVD with the case and everything...but for downloading, about twice rental rates is the max.
-by jimf
Good. Let them.Wal-Mart will make hand over fist in that endless DVD 5.99 boxed pit in front of thier electronics dept.
I think for a films that are older or have a low budget B film quality to them, bare bones with no extra features a $5.99 to 9.99 price in high def may be not so bad. But nobody's going to shell out $20.00 for something they can get more of at the stores. That's common sense.
Granted, some newer releases may have sites where some content such as special features could be seen. Trailers could be already downloaded in eyepod. Folks will soon to be able to download John and Dougs' commen...oh, well maybe not that far yet.
This is what I see: low budget "recent" films that usually try to find a voice at film fests that *don't* find a distrubutor theatrically, may in find find a *distributor* who will solely work with iTunes, seeing the chance of opportunity. If MPAA submitted, the rating holds (or, like some iTunes, 'mature/explicit content) - I'm betting down on someone like First Look, Lion's Gate, Anchor Bay (who specialize in cult films; one of these days they will branch out) or Newmarket. Trust me...someone will step up. Someone will rule the house. But it will be an indie or two that starts it up at that iTunes price.
There could be a page that gives a brief synopsis of the films; trailers will be under a heading in the Movie Trailer Quicktime page under the respected studio/distributor.
They will make money. Filmmakers will get exposure. I would be all for this.
Oh- and the content will allow folks to burn DVDs. Just the bare bones stuff.
Or even make thier own menu layout/chapter stop for x amount of time.
-by darren seele
There is a big opportunity being missed here. Trying to find a copy of certain movies is impossible. A download service would make the library larger and make Hollywood big bickies.I have seen a limited number movies available to download in Oz, like a rental service. However the length of hire was dictated by the studios. Some priced them for a 1 day hire at more than twice the price of hiring them for a week. For a few dollars more I could buy the DVD in some cases.
Hollywood is being pressured by DVD sellers and DVD rental stores. But most importantly they have $$$ in their eyes. They would rather have low volume and high prices, blame it on piracy and leverage that into political pressure for control over people's machines. It was not long ago Hollywood was proposing the right to hack into people's machines and delete files.
-by darkbhudda


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Hey, not everything is deep and meaningful news, right? Enjoy your summer!
LE MANS, France - Corvette Racing made history today at the 24 Hours of Le Mans, scoring its fourth 1-2 finish in the GT1 class in five years with the new Corvette C6.R. Corvette Racing drivers Oliver Gavin, Olivier Beretta and Jan Magnussen reprised their victory in last year's 24-hour endurance race, and were again joined on the podium by teammates Ron Fellows, Johnny O'Connell and Max Papis.
The team celebrated Corvette's 45th anniversary at Le Mans in style, finishing fifth and sixth overall. Corvette Racing turned back the challenge of the Aston Martin team in a hard-fought battle that often saw all four cars on the same lap. In scorching heat, the twin yellow Corvettes completed 349 and 347 laps respectively, scoring the 38th win for Corvette Racing in international road racing and the team's 25th 1-2 finish.
Corvette took 1st and 2nd for the second year in a row, and took 5th, and 6th place as well this year.
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Well done! watched every televised minute. The factory Vette first and a privateer effort third. That and the other factory Vette at least made it to the finssh line with its head held high. Job well done by all.Now if only you could get Cadillac to the same competitive level as the Audi R8/R10 in the LMP1 class then GM would really stand astride the world's greatest endurance race.
Come on Cadillac! GET IN THE GAME!
-by Bwright
racing improves the breed but only if you apply the lessons learned in racing to the road cars you sell. the c6 corvette is an excellent example of this but the lessons you learn can be applied to more of your products. rember, a racing program is never too expensive if you use the knowledge to make better cars. congratulations corvette racing and good luck in the future.
-by josh
I hope this will be a basis for Chev advertising.
New York Times center spread
Picture of cars in winner circle w/something like this.
"...Chev C6r; no hybrid--all chevrolet..."
Do It (more fun than arguing about the word "rubbish")
-by Dennis J Gallagher
[Dennis refers to an ongoing argument with between GM and The New York Times over GM cars]
Dr. Mahfooz Kanwar recently attended Calgary's largest mosque for a funeral.
At one point in the proceedings, a man Kanwar has known for more than three decades led the prayers.
"He was saying in Urdu (the official language of Pakistan): 'Oh, God, protect us from the infidels, who pollute us with their vile ways,'" recalls Kanwar, a professor of sociology at Mount Royal College in Calgary.
"I stood up and grabbed him by the lapels, which was shocking even to me because I have never done anything like that in my life and I said: 'How dare you attack my country.' And then I addressed the crowd and said: 'I have known this man for more than 30 years and he has been on welfare for almost all of those years.' "
"Then I said to this semi-literate man, 'you should thank me and those you call infidels.'
"He asked me why and I said: 'Because the taxes I pay are putting food on your table as are the taxes of the so-called "infidels.' "
Homa Arjomand, who lives in Toronto and headed Canada's successful campaign of the International Campaign Against Sharia Court in Canada, says like Kanwar, she too once embraced the idea of multiculturalism.
Arjomand, who calls herself a "victim" of sharia law -- a strict set of rules based on Islam's holy book, the Qur'an, that subjugates women, as well as allows for the chopping off of hands for theft etc. -- says part of the reason she decided to immigrate to Canada was because she had heard about official multiculturalism."I thought how wonderful, but not anymore," she declares.
"I came here for Canadian values, not sharia values. I fled Iran on horseback because the values there threatened my very life. If people want to live under sharia or the way they lived back home, let them go back," she said.
Kanwar agrees. He says the time has come for the Canadian government to tell new immigrants "once you're in Canada we expect you to be totally devoted to Canada -- no divided loyalties."
"This country," added Kanwar, "is a democracy and democracy is founded on Christian principles.
"Canada is -- like it or not, take it or leave it -- a country founded on Christian principles where the vast majority of citizens are Christians," said Kanwar.
It's heartening to hear a Muslim state a clear and simple fact: that Canada is founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Further, it is encouraging to hear him say that immigrants who aren't happy with this reality, should reconsider their residency here.Judeo-Christian values, in fact, are the foundation of all Western democracies, and are the reason why countless millions of people of other faiths and cultures have left, and are leaving, their countries to live in Europe, Britain, and North America.
One simple litmus test of which values provide a more open and democratic life for its citizens--those based on the Judeo-Christian tradition or those based on other faiths--is to look at the traffic flow of immigrants: Is it from Christian countries to countries where the vast majority of people are non-Christian, or is it from non-Christian countries to those whose laws are based on Judeo-Christian values?
Overwhelmingly, it is the latter.
-by new kid on the block
Carved in stone above the Parliament Buildings of Canada it is written: "He shall have Dominion from sea to sea". This passage from the Psalms was viewed by our Christian founders as a reference to the coming reign of Christ. And the thousands of historic churches sprinkled throughout this nation bear witness to the fact that Canada was not founded on some broad or nebulous concept of multiculturalism; it was founded on Christian principles and values.
-by Richard Ball
Amen!! We are a Constitutional Monarchy founded by Christians. It is because of these values that people were welcomed from all over the world. The parable of the Good Samaritan shows we must treat all justly and with compassion and mercy.
-by Roy Eappen
As a "non-believer",I have never been threatened by Harper's "God Bless"comments,it is easier to trust a man who wears something so personal on his sleeve.
As long as church is separated from state it is wholly acceptable behavior,given our history.As long as people are free to have their own beliefs,it honors us to respect and protect the heritage that has made this country great!
-by Canadian Observer
James: I'm an agnostic, who used to be a very devout Christian. I know the foundations of Christianity better than most people, including its primary source docuements, and reformative moments. And, I can assure you, that Christianity of the New Testament and Islam have nothing in common other than monotheism. The Koran and the "traditional" teachings that make up Islam are completely unreformed and completely locked into 1400 year old modes of viewing god, sin, crime, and punishmen, and life on earth. Islam has not had a reformation that has made it compatible with pluralistic society."Moderate" Muslims are struggling to come to terms with this, but usually they do so by ignoring their own foundational teachings. Since so much of Islam is not Koran based, but based on traditional teachings that came after, they have a very difficult job ahead of them.
Making the New Testament Bible fit with liberal democracy is a cake-walk compared to Islam. And, let's not forget that most early immigrants to North America were Christians who were seeking freedom from Catholic and Protostant states and pursecution in Europe... the American constitution is a wonderful testament of Christian New Testament values entrenched in a way that keeps those values from being hijacked by the state. They took the core values yet separated church and state... brilliant.
-by Debris Trail
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"The government and its Janjaweed allies have killed thousands of Fur, Masalit, and Zaghawa—often in cold blood—raped women, and destroyed villages, food stocks and other supplies essential to the civilian population. They have driven more than one million civilians, mostly farmers, into camps and settlements in Darfur where they live on the very edge of survival, hostage to Janjaweed abuses. More than one million others have fled to neighboring Chad but the vast majority of war victims remain trapped in Darfur..."Although in May 2006 the main rebel group, the Sudanese Liberation Movement signed a peace agreement with the Sudanese government, this does not seem to have stopped the violence. At this point, the original cause of the fighting is all but forgotten. Like many African conflicts, this one appears to be yet another tribal dispute gone mad, such as what happened in Rwanda. Ancient animosities, territorial disputes, and tribal conflicts are given guns, bombs, and tanks, and the horror is incredible. Add to that a religious aspect to the slaughter, and the mix is ghastly.
Has the Bush Doctrine inspired American military capabilities to prevent genocide in Darfur, in which hundreds of thousands of people have already been killed simply because of their ethno-racial background, and religious affiliation, and elsewhere? Or, has the Bush Doctrine ignored human cries in Darfur, and elsewhere, and is instead being used to support a well-reported apparent agenda of the pursuit of oil resources, which has politically marginalized the surrounding chaos, human suffering, and loss of life?But Lou Minatti notes a problem with this analysis:
Notice which country is missing from the list? Yep. Which country has the oil concessions in the Darfur region? Yep. Which countries are working tirelessly against establishing peace and order in Darfur? Yep, you guessed it.In a blow to Britain and the United States, Russia and China on Monday blocked proposed sanctions against four Sudanese accused of interfering with peace efforts and violating human rights in Darfur.Guess which other country is against ending the violence in Darfur? Take a look at the map again. I bet you can guess.
The sanctions, proposed by Britain and strongly supported by the United States, would have been the first imposed by the U.N. Security Council since it authorized an asset freeze and travel ban in March 2005 on individuals who defy peace efforts and violate international human rights law in the western Sudanese region.
France says it does not support US plans for international sanctions on Sudan if violence continues in Darfur.People are indeed dying in Darfur because of oil and Islamofascism. But it's not America that is ignoring the tragedy. Nor is it the Brits. The US and UK want to end the slaughter. But there are certain countries that are perfectly content to let the slaughter continue. You can guess from the map which countries they are.
The UN Security Council is debating a US draft resolution imposing sanctions on militias accused of "ethnic cleansing" against non-Arabs.
Very good post but, not something I already didn't know. The problem is that 90%+ of the citizens in western nations don't know the connection between politics and oil as it relates to Sudan. For that I really must place some blame on the U.S. and other non involved western governments.Would it really be so terrible to hold up this map at the U.N. and call on all the nations with oil contracts to do something about the slaughter (no blood for oil and all that)? BTW, the U.S. has trade sanctions against Sudan and imports no oil from that country, another little known fact... But, the world calls for the U.S. to put boots on the ground to solve the problem (or maybe just send a whole bunch of taxpayer money). Disgusting.
-by babs
This article doesnt make sense.
You are making false claims from a map.
Like if the United States wasn't present in Sudan for oil...
Pathetic...
Chad exports "only" 160,000 barrels per day, produced by a U.S.-Malaysia consortium of Exxon Mobil, ChevronTexaco and Petronas.
-by BritFox
Like if the United States wasn't present in Sudan for oil...
Britfox or Mogwey as you call yourself on No Pasaran... The United States is not in the Sudan for oil. The United States placed trading sanctions on Sudan years ago due to their gross violation of human rights.
Yes, a consortium of oil companies, some of which are American companies, are pumping oil in Chad. A total production of 160,000 barrels a day is a pittance of world production and doesn't come close to the production in Sudan.
Currently, the United States government is trying to mediate between the World Bank, which lent Chad the money to build their pipeline and the gov't of Chad. Chad changed the laws governing revenue distribution in violation of the terms of their loan with the World Bank.
The point of this post is that the countries with commercial interests in Sudan are actively blocking sanctions on Sudan and allowing the slaughter to continue for their own economic gain.
To my knowledge, the citizens of Chad are not being slaughtered wholsale while the U.S. exports their oil. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said of the commercial interests backed by their gov'ts in Sudan.
You, Britfox/Mogwey are the one that does not make sense.
-by babs
Don't be so hard on britfox.
When things get confusing you should return to first principals and analyze in that light.
As anyone who has read Gnome Chomsky knows, America is responsible for all the evil in the world. The killing in Darfur is evil. Therefore Darfur is America's fault.
QED
No need to confuse people with maps and facts. Besides, how do you know that Chad and Sudan are two different countries? Have you ever been there?
-by Mark in Texas
Yet another example of how the UN does not work as well as yet another conflict that the Russians enable through blocking any sort of resolution.
Of course we will not be able to impose international sanctions on the Sudan either because France, China, and Russia are against military action. Only a politician can make a statement like that with a straight face.
This leaves the US (and others) the option of either ignoring the problem or doing something outside the UN. Perhaps the US has learned from other recent actions and the leaders of the Sudan will instead wake up in a pool of blood instead of the US doing a full-scale invasion.
-by Fred Fry

''Now it is finally revealed by some of the top academic sources in the country. 'It is not just David Duke anymore. None other than researchers at Harvard and the University of Chicago have said that the Israel lobby controls US foreign policy and is responsible for this war in Iraq. What a fantastic step forward this is."Or, if you're sane, backward. Recently Ace of Spades noted how a Kos Diarist named Grand Moff Texan suggested that Yale University's decision to not hire Juan Cole is because of the Jooooos:
Juan Cole is, apparently, not too bothered by the fact that he's not going to Yale and who could blame him? Presented with the choice of living and working in Ann Arbor orAs ace noted:HartfordNew Haven, I'd rather be a Wolverine too. But that's not what this is about. I have a problem with the fact that Yale decided not to hire someone because a bunch of Israel-first, rightwing flacks went and scared Yale's Jewish donors, and they in turn scared administrators at Yale.
That's three groups of people right there who need to reconsider what country they live in.
Jews
They're gonna getcha.
Commenters at the Ace of Spades Headquarters found more conspiracies by the invidious Jews who control the world, but somehow always end up on the wrong end of the sword:You know when you get a bag of pistachios and there are some that aren't partially cracked open already. They break your eating rythm and you have to decide whether it's worth it to crack them open with your teeth or whether you should just them away.That's the Jew's handiwork.
You when you take a crap in a public bathroom and then realize that there isn't any toilet paper - that's because a Jew took it.
-by steve_in_hb
You know when you go to the zoo to see the monkeys and lions and bears but those cages are all "closed for maintenance" and you waste your fuckin' day in the Turtle House?That's because Jews can't have a bar mitzvah without monkeys and lions and bears.
404 Error?
No such thing exists.. It's a Kabbala code for "We whacked Christ."
-by ace
You know how when you go through Burger King and order a Whopper and clearly enunciate that you DO.NOT.WANT.MAYO and then you get it and it's slathered with extra mayo?Jews.
If you get Diet Coke instead of regular, though, that's the f*cking Freemasons.
-The Warden
You know when you come up with a kick-ass blog comment, hit send, and realize there's a typo and immediately hit "cancel"? When your comment shows up anyway making you look like a fool, you know it was the Jews.F*ckin'. JOOOOS.
-by Feisty
You know that lame ass voice-over and "happy" ending on the theatrical version of Blade Runner?Jews
Oh, and that video making the internet rounds a while back with the killer whale crushing the "coach"?
Jew... wait, no, on second thought, I think that was orchestrated by the penguins. Jewish penguins though.
-by Krakatoa
You know when "some people" are moving in on you, and using the blacks as muscle?I think you know where I'm headed with this.
-by an Illinois Nazi
You know that whole "Jewish international bankers" conspiracy? It's a sham. They put an extra "n" in there to throw the goyim off. It's supposed to be the "Jewish international bakers." That's why you see bagel delivery trucks everywhere.BREAD JEWS.
-by Sue Dohnim
You know who created the whole myth that women can have orgasms - perverted Jews.
-by steve_in_hb
It's POTATO JEWS stealing your hard-earned money.Little known fact - they also spell "potato" with an "e" on the end to let each other know who to give a big discount to and who to screw.
Quayle's slip-up almost cost him his life. It's like a connected man trying to represent himself as being a made man.
-by The Warden
Designated hitter rule? Astroturf?Yeah. We all know who drove those two abominations through.
And Sandy Koufax was at best an average pitcher. Yeah: I said it! I said it and I'm glad. Average! He couldn't carry Whitey Ford's jock. Yeah: Whitey Ford. You know what I'm sayin'.
(Oy gevalt, the shame I'm feeling! Such a schmendrick I am. I could plotz!)
-by Monty
Fran Drescher's career?I guess she was just "lucky."
Brussel sprouts. Gee, a vegetable nobody likes but everyone seems compelled to buy.
"Jew lettuce," that's what I call it.
-by ace
You know when you're on a real short plane flight and the stewardessess start serving anyway, but then stop just before they get to your row, leaving you thirsty and hungry while everyone else is sitting back, all smug and satisfied with their half-cup of Diet Coke and chintzy little bag of stale mixed nuts?All those people in front of you are Jooooooooos.
Hot dogs - packages of 8
Hot dog buns - packages of 10.Jewish bakers strike yet again.
-by wiserbud
I'm not saying that the Joos caused Hurricane Katrina, but somebody made a lot of $$ selling boats in New Orleans last September.
-by it's kosher, Amish
Hey Amish? When does hurricane season start?You got it. Jewne.
-by wiserbud
Banks are closed on Sunday because the jew is gathering in the lobby to dine on noble palestinian children.
-by mike s.
Tickets not selling at our venues? It can't be my big f*ckin' mouth ...Gotta be the Jewesses.
-by Natalie Maine

The bodies of the two captured U.S. soldiers were found in Iraq - bearing signs of "barbaric torture."
How quaint.
I hope Alberto Gonzales and John Yoo will sleep well tonight, with visions of those boys' bodies and the horrible barbarities inflicted upon them dancing in their heads. Perhaps Gonzales, and Yoo, and Rumsfeld and Bush will be able to envision the same inhumanities being visited upon their family members and loved ones as they drift off to peaceful slumber.
No tips please.[included so that one does not get the impression Occam's Hatchet is entirely without pity or sympathy for the families involved]
Just grief, and outrage, and prayers (if you believe in prayer) for the families and loved ones of all of those in these terribly dangerous places.
-by Occam's Hatchet
We didn't see that coming, did we?
Bush deserves full blame for this and anything like this that will happen in the future.
-by Mark H
Yep. But they'll twist it into an example of "what we're up against". Never mind that they helped create it and are perpetuating it.
-by MLDB
Easily refuted. During WWII even Germany and Japan, for the most part, honored the Geneva Convention with respect to U.S. troops (if not with Russian or Chinese troops). The notable exceptions, e.g. the Malmedy massacre and the Bataan death march, are rightly considered atrocities
-by Colorado Luis
Our Treatment of the Germans saved American lives. German soldiers were more likely to surrender to American troops, because they knew that they would be treated humanely.
-by forkush
I am certainly not excusing the actions of Bush and this administration...both in going into Iraq in the first place and for their own acts of torture. But the people who did this are sub-human animals. They certainly are to blame for torturing fellow human beings...whether it is our soldiers or the Iraqi men, women and children that have been tortured and murdered.
-by BarbinMD
no matter what we've done (and we've done a lot), the murderers are the ones responsible for this. There is no justification for this, each person is responsible for the evil they themselves commit.
These types are beyond repair and must be eradicated. (and Bush & co. should be in prison, but that's a different story)-by SeanF
Damn all who torture because humane death is bad enough. and damn those who vote for torture. and those who think war is the way to peace.-by Little Red Hen
What irks me most is the factthat they won't take responsibility because of their de facto legalisation of torture. They'll lose the elections, you say? So effing what! They'll simply go bask to Crawford and count the blood(y) money.
These deaths are the direct result of the Bushistas' policies. Might I remind those gathered here that these are war crimes? To see justice, especially for these young soldiers, ship the Republican scum responsible to the Hague.
-by Dauphin
you have a point about somalia, but as to the hanoi hilton, the treatment our POWs received there was directly related to our refusal to abide by the geneva conventions during that war, when we turned over whatever VC or NVA prisoners we took to the saigon regime, which incarcerated them in brutal conditions that made the HH seem tame by comparison. very few VC or NVA prisoners survived their incarceration.
-by hind
Would have been tortured regardless of admin policy.Doesn't make Bush or AG the AG or Yoo any less reprehensible or wrong, but it's not like we're dealing with folks who would carefully monitor their GC obligations in any event.
The GI's were snatched for the purpose of making a snuff video.
These soldiers weren't captured by the Iraqi government or Baathist party.
They were kidnapped, tortured, and murdered by--in all likelihood--Islamist insurgents/fighters/terrorists/whatever.
It bears noting that Islamist militants have a long history of torture and gruesome beheadings--in Algeria, Chechnya, Afghanistan, etc etc.
-by GeekesqueWHAT? They would torture anyway? Ahem. At the beginning of the war there were several soldiers in the 507th captured and held, as you might recall. They were treated quite well by their captors as it turns out, although Drudge carried the false and ugly story that Jessica Lynch was raped. In fact she was taken to a hospital to treat her for her wounds. But how quickly we forget right? They're all just "ragheads" anyway right?
Sorry. I know you don't feel that way about Iraqis. But. The torturing is in DIRECT response to Abu Ghraib.
-by reef the dog
Why publish these comments? Two reasons. First, to point out that the radical left is horrified by this event and wants those responsible to pay. Second to show that their position is based on the idea that terrorists and radical Muslim jihadis would treat us well if only we weren't so mean to them, and third to point out that they erroneously believe the US is torturing and murdering captured terrorists and POWs in a similar manner.
The "quaint" line of the main story comes from this memo by Alberto Gonzales in 2002, which describes some of the aspects of the Geneva Conventions as "quaint:"
"In my judgement, this new paradigm [rather than nations adhering to the laws of war and fighting as a regular uniformed army, the enemy is irregular, without uniform or disciplined organized leadership, and ignores morality] renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners and renders quaint some of its provisions..."
I concur most whole heartedly and think the Geneva Conventions were fine for a time when massed armies met in the field of battle and observed certain rules, but are outdated (quaint) and inappropriate for modern warfare. They need to be updated, but the last attempt tried to make terrorists, spies, and saboteurs in the same category as uniformed soldiers which is the opposite direction from which we need to go.
The US is not ignoring the Geneva Conventions on war, all uniformed soldiers are treated under those regulations and are accorded all proper care and treatment. Those not protected by the Geneva Conventions (making war without uniforms, organization, a nation, and without structured leadership) are not treated the same by the US military.
One thing I do wish, though. That the left would stop using words like "ragheads" to describe the Arabic and Persian peoples, a term I've never read a conservative use on a blog.
*UPDATE: Changed the top quote from Samuel Adams to Ace of Spades Headquarters commenter The Drizzle

ISRAELI artillery fire killed a Palestinian family who were picnicking on the beach in Gaza yesterday, as the shoreline was packed with people on a Muslim holiday.Body parts, bloodstained baby carriages and shredded holiday tents were left strewn on the sand near Beit Lahiya, in northern Gaza, after the late- afternoon strike that killed at least seven people, thought to include the parents and children of one family.
Other news organizations had similar headlines:
Human Rights Watch condemned Israel, calling for an investigation:
“There has been much speculation about the cause of the beach killings, but the evidence we have gathered strongly suggests Israeli artillery fire was to blame,” said Sarah Leah Whitson, director of the Middle East and Africa division at Human Rights Watch. “It is crucial that an independent investigative team, with the necessary expertise, verify the facts in a transparent manner.”Two days later, they followed up with another article that alleged that the evidence implicated the Israeli Defense Force in the tragedy:
“The likelihood that the Ghalya family was killed by an explosive other than one of the shells fired by the IDF is remote,” said Marc Garlasco, senior military analyst at Human Rights Watch. “This new evidence highlights the urgent need for Israel to permit an independent, transparent investigation into the beach killings.”
In my most recent post on the contradictory IDF and Garlasco explanations, I reproduced the Human Rights Watch report of Garlasco's findings verbatim. It actually relied heavily on Palestinian witness and bomb disposal staff statements about the timing and location of what they claimed was the shelling they witnessed.
Now Human Rights Watch and Garlasco have admitted that the IDF account "cannot be contradicted". Without directly saying so, they have conceded that despite Garlasco's previous assertions, the deaths were not directly caused by artillery shelling as they had claimed.
And I wonder if Chris McGreal of the Guardian, Donald McIntyre of the Independent, and the BBC News web site will now report in full Garlasco and Human Rights Watch's latest statements that the Israeli forces invest such effort not to harm innocent civilians and were correct in stating that an errant shell did not cause the killings.
And will they raise questions about the Palestinian witness evidence they so graphically reported, which had barrages of shells landing in the midst of the family on the beach?
Or will they raise questions about why the Palestinian authorities permit families to use a beach which they must know is likely to have unexploded ordnance lying on it?
Commenters responded:
"Or will they raise questions about why the Palestinian authorities permit families to use a beach which they must know is likely to have unexploded ordnance lying on it?"First of all, they don't care.
But also, Palestinians and Beduins, both inside Israel and in the territories collect scrap metal. It wouldn't be strange that one in that family touched a dud and it exploded.Every year, at least a dozen people die in Israel because of this. (I remember two recent cases)
-by Fabián
The Palestinians put on the full court press here. Unfortunately for them, the IDF broke the press and got a slam dunk at the other end.I think it is in part because Hamas' popularity is dropping, and the revelation that they murdered this group of beachgoers would not have helped matters at all. We generally see that these eye-witness accounts are less than reliable, but Hamas went further here and apparently fabricated evidence.
Another point - the HRW smears the IDF in their initial press release:
However, such internal investigations by the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have generally fallen short of international standards for thorough and impartial investigations and have rarely uncovered the truth or held to account the perpetrators of violations, as documented in a 2005 Human Rights Watch report, Promoting Impunity: The Israeli Military’s Failure to Investigate Wrongdoing.At the same time they rely on a group that is even "less thorough and impartial" (read: has been busted fabricating evidence and lying through their teeth).Now that the group has, once again, been busted lying through their teeth, hiding evidence and in all probability fabricating it as well, will HRW note this in their revised report? Will they note that this happens regularly? Most importantly, will they document it in a 2006 Human Rights Watch report perhaps titled, Libelous Deception: The Palestinians' Penchant for Deflecting Blame and Fabricating Victimhood.
-by Dave in DC
Per an earlier post, just how much credibility do we give to an organization like HRW, that admitted after Saddam's fall that it knew of such outrages as the special childrens' "holding facility" at Abu Graib, but kept silent for fear of being kicked out of the country and thus be unable to do anything to help.
-by Lynne
In a book on the accusation of poisoning schoolgrils in Jenin in 1983 (Poison), Rafi Israeli described the Israeli (and more broadly the Jewish) condition. When the accusations came out, everyone was on it. When the refutation came, the Israeli media reported it, the Arab media denied it and the Western media fell silent. Israel is caught between libel and silence.
-by richard Landes
I think there is a bigger issue here than the attention-getting behavior of Marc Garlasco. HRW has but three people on the ground in Gaza - Garlasco being one of them. This suggests that HRW has to rely on Arab/Mulsim informants to get the information about when and where rockets are being launched and when and where IDF rounds are being received. How does HRW fact-check the information they are getting from the Arab/Muslims in Gaza? Furthermore, there is a distinctly Arab/Muslim tradition of Taqiyya that basically encourages outright lying during times of warfare. Given, the few HRW men on the ground and the propensity for Arab/Muslims to lie, how can the media so readily trust anything HRW says.
Israpundit readers might also note that one of the MiddleEast people at the HRW offices in NY, Assef Ashraf, doesn’t think the Qassam rockets are really rockets at all. Rather these homemade devices are more like pipebombs. Comments like these are enough to instill a lot of confidence in you, huh? Again, this is the organization that has been quoted by all of the major news media.
-by determined in dallas
All too often the lie that Churchill describes is helped along on it's journey by news media who want to be first on a story and carry something sensational but are reluctant to print retractions and tend to bury them on pages people won't see as readily. Often TV news media will not offer retractions at all, except somewhere on their blog, tucked away. I understand that errors are inevitable, but some carry a higher price than others, and sometimes errors become factoids - falsehoods repeated so often they are accepted as truth. Certainly news media has some kind of responsibility here, don't they?

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"We have four categories of wishes, and 'I Wish to Be' is the most rare," [Make-a-Wish Foundation] Executive Director Marcia Karakas said.
This is the first time in at least 10 years that a "Be" wish has been received in the Idaho office, which serves the state's lower 35 counties. Unlike wishes to "Go," "Meet" or "Have," the "Be" wish allows the community to be more involved in making the wish come true.
Wish partner Windermere Real Estate had 100 percent participation from its 150 employees at two Boise offices.Aubrey's wish blossomed to include the Idaho Historical Museum, Boise State University, Saint Alphonsus Life Flight, Fairly Reliable Bob's, Gowen Field Fire and Rescue, Zoo Boise, the mayor's office, and the city's police, fire and parks departments.
Aubrey received a phone call from the original Batman, Adam West, and local artist Kelly Knopp is creating a comic book for Aubrey.
Area 02, a local production company, filmed the events of Aubrey's wish, and there will be a red-carpet premiere of the film at the Egyptian Theatre in the fall.When the Make-A-Wish Foundation of Idaho asked Aubrey what her wish would be, she knew right away."She truly loves superheroes," Elisa Matthews said.
"She cares about others, and she's always been this way," Dave Matthews said.Aubrey made up other superheroes to help her fight crimes in scripted scenes on her special day. She equipped Lion Lady, Frog Lady, Dog Man, House Lifter, Sky Girl, Martian Manhunter and Tree Girl with their own superpowers. A script assisted heroes and police as the drama played out, but Aubrey always knew what to say because she loves to play superhero with friends.
Aubrey also provided the design inspiration for each of their costumes, including her own costume in her favorite color, blue.
With a determined look on her face, Aubrey used her super powers of X-ray vision, super strength, fast speed and blowing power to rescue a hostage from Black's grip and tie the villain to the replica Liberty Bell in front of the Statehouse at about noon.
Hundreds of fans cheered her on."I'd like to thank you for your extreme bravery in capturing Black," Mayor David Bieter said on the Statehouse steps after Black's arrest.
"You have shown extraordinary crime-fighting skills," Boise Police Chief Mike Masterson said before presenting her with a custom-made police uniform, badge and all.
The day started off with a desperate call from Adam West, asking if ["Star"] could possibly help with the town's problems.
Too cute.
[I did, big tough guy that I am]I almost cried reading the linked article. There's still some really good people out there.
-by TheWarden
If you're looking for a charity that does magnificent things for kids, while managing their expenses quite responsibly, the Make a Wish Foundation is a very worthy organization. Good people doing great things for kids and their families.This story was first in the JackalGirl blog
-by Dave in Texas
Boise. Where I reside and have for almost 30 years. Great city. Great people. Great story.
I work downtown where this all took place. Pretty damn cool.
-by Kelly
I did cry, and I'm gonna keep my eyes open for the DVD release of Star's film of daring do gooding.
-by Wickedpinto
I, too, would love to see the film. I can imagine a few ways that they could pull off giving her super strength, but I wanna see how they did the x-ray vision.And, yeah, her name was "Star". JackalGirl is the blogger you linked to.
-by Tuning Spork
We've reached an odd place in Western history when a case has to be made for fatherhood, but here we are.
I'm a shameless "Daddy's girl" even though I'm well past the age of a "girl" and "Daddy" is 10 years in the grave. I'm even past grieving at this point and struggle sometimes to bring his face into focus.
What I have no trouble recalling is the power of his influence in my life and the utter impossibility of imagining a childhood without him. It's not that he was perfect - who is? - but he was mine. And because my mother died young, he was mostly mine for much of my childhood.
This particular happenstance is probably what led me to become a champion of fathers. If my father had died young instead of my mother, maybe I'd be a champion of motherhood, but I doubt it for this simple reason: Motherhood doesn't need a champion.
The sanctity of motherhood is intact and manifest, as irrefutable as the umbilical bond between mother and child. Fatherhood is something less certain. Until the advent of DNA to prove paternity, fatherhood was a bond of faith founded in trust.She says, "The baby's yours."
He says, "I will be his father."
Unlike women, who know with inescapable certainty that they are the parent of their own child, men have had to place their faith in the integrity of their sexual partner. Thus, fatherhood was a voluntary commitment, a quintessential offering of self-sacrifice and surrender to mother and child.
His selfish interest, of course, was tied to his wish to propagate and protect his own bloodline. Even so, sticking around requires a leap of faith that borders on the mystical.
It's really rather sweet when you think about it - man surrendering his less laudable nature, tamping down his more natural inclination to play Johnny Appleseed in order to mow grass on weekends and patch skinned knees for the added privilege of working hard for little credit.
Fathers, in a word, are awesome.
Things have shifted a bit in recent years, you may have noticed, and "awesome" isn't a word you hear much in describing men, unless you've got some little moon-faced twit gaping at a guy's pecs or the angle of his jeans. More often they're deadbeats, losers, rapists, murderers and abusers. Oh, and idiots. Name a TV dad who can tie his shoes without assistance from his far-smarter wife or kid.Fathers aren't only morons, they're expendable.
"The even greater mystery is that men continue to sign up for the job, to sublimate themselves to the higher charge of being a father even in the face of a culture that belittles them. That's what fathers do, of course: take the grief and keep on keeping on.Thanks, Kathleen.
Which is why we love them."
Signed,
A dad
-by FreeManDC
The best way to honor our fathers is by honoring the institution that legitimizes fatherhood. That, of course, is Marriage.Lets start by removing anti-child, anti-family, "pro"-female divorce in law and its practice. This would be best done by throwing out no-fault divorce and family court altogether. Once we are on a roll, we could finish up by breaking the PC shackles to honest speech about shameful behavior. People shouldn't be afraid to openly ostracize the Angelina Jolies of this world for being the sluts that they are. Gold digging "baby mommas" are whores, plain and simple. And they all produce bastards (albeit, innocent bastards).
Men really don't need a lot of affirmation. Lets Honor Fathers by protecting Marriage in law and culture. The rest will work itself out.
PS: Yes, ladies, I left out the feckless cads who father these bastards on purpose. While most of these men are legally treated as no better than walking wallets and interchangeable sperm donors, then the most of the power and, hence, most of the responsibility lies with the female "gatekeepers".
-by thinkwell
I loved the article, I envy your view of your father. Being the son of a distant and aloof alcoholic, I didn't know what a father was or how to be a father. I did learn with the birth of my own sons, and can't imagine life without them. What is satisfying as a father is watching them mirror what has been taught and passing that on to their own children, and watching them grow as human beings and become successful. Your father would be very proud.
I mourn the fact of what my own father missed.
Society's current feminist/homosexual path will be the death of this culture as we know it. A cursory overview of history supports this, but it will be debated / ignored as it was in the past. Europe with it's multiculturism, death of Christianity and nihlism offers a view of the US in the not too distant future. Just being able to observe the progress (or digression as the case may be) should give a reasonable view to the end of it all.
-by foneman
Kathleen,
You are 100% right on the money. Yes, American culture has been poisoned to negatively view the importance of fathers. As I'm sure you probably know, it's 100 times WORSE in the black community, where 70% of black American children are growing up without their fathers in their lives. I speak from personal experience in saying that fatherlessness hurts like hell. You never get over it; you just deal with it.
-by DutchMartin"Today's women - armed with degrees and checkbooks, not to mention easy access to sperm banks - enjoy the social freedom to have children with or without dear ol' dad counting contractions and are increasingly opting out of the paperwork. Gone is any shame associated with having children out of wedlock."In one paragraph you have summed up the social history of the world in the last 35 years or so. A sad, sad state of affairs. Removing that shame of children out-of-wedlock children is perhaps to biggest single social change FOR THE WORST in probably all history.
For years the fear of unmarried women of becoming pregnant and the fear of men of getting them pregnent was probably the biggest and best contributor to socially responsible behavior. Once that fear was removed and young people were told to - 'go out, have fun, there are no consequences to your actions (or mommy will take care of the consequence)' - everything flowed from there. Epidemic rates of STDS, teenage pregnancy, and of course, the biggie, abortion.
What can be sadder than this statement that feminists live by: "Don't worry about getting pregnant. You can always kill it!"
And boys. You were right in calling them sperm doners. There are some fathers around. I know a couple. But for the most, that is exactly what they are, sperm doners.
As a teen, I cannot imagine standing in front of my father with a pregnant girlfriend. The idea was so unthinkable that great pains were taken to ensure that would never happen.
What do you suppose happens to a teenager now that gets his girlfriend pregnant. No pudding with supper? No video games for a week? No cell phone for a day?
I am not naive enough to believe that in earlier days, people didn't have inappropirate sex and yes, sometimes there were unexpected, unplanned pregnancies. But certainly it was not epidemic like it is now when kids have no rules or guidelines to live by.<>I also will take issue with this statement. Motherhood has lost its sanctity. All one has to do is look at the lousy job women do alone, that is, look at the state of today's kids. Motherhood holds no sanctity for a lot of us any more.
-by Stam
I grew up wishing I was in a traditional family.
I "met" my dad at 13. Randomly visited with him for the following 20 years. He passed away February. His age?
I'm a Gen-Xer who is the product of "free love" and no consequences. I am the only child between my parents, but have numerous step and half siblings.
There's a void that can't be filled without that male influence.
-by JimmyCarter
Thank you Cathleen!!!
I really appreciate your writing. Someone needs to point out the elephant in the room.
Men and fathers continue to be taken for granted, and I am afraid there will be grave consequences if we do not reverse this destructive 30+year trend.
Not only are men a critical part of the family. They are a foundational part of what keeps civilization going.
By watching the popular media, you would never know that men do the following:
98% of military casualties – while we live our peaceful lives it is men who are beating back the wolves. (If you do not believe me, check the DOD website your self: http://siadapp.dior.whs.mil/index.html)
92% of workplace fatalities – If it were not for men, we would be living in caves, walking down dirt paths, have no modern medicine, no fire departments, police departments, no airplanes… everything we take for granted in the modern world comes from men taking risks. (If you do not believe the fatality data, check the BLS website for your self: http://stats.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0193.pdf
Something like 80% of all the food we eat is grown by men (check the BLS website and calculate the percentage of who works in agriculture: http://stats.bls.gov/home.htm)
Do your own reseach – I have not been able to find a single item critical to society for which men do not provide the lion’s share of the benefit (except for giving birth).
A woman needs a man, like a fish needs water.
-by johnnyp
One day may it please God that the Right should understand that no one is against fathers and give up this amazing and absurd chip on its collective shoulder. A "case" only needs to be made for fatherhood if you are a flinchy reactionary with a victim complex. Other, less ideologically committed people realize intuitively (and usually do not even feel the need to discuss) the critical role that men play in the conception, gestation, and raising of their offspring. My dad's a religious conservative. I'm sure he agrees with this nonsense about the world not caring about fathers anymore, because he pretty much goes along with whatever agenda the Right sets itself. But I love him and I don't need anyone to tell me that he's important.
-by Malou
Thank you for your kind words about fathers.
Anybody who watchs T.V. ( and takes notice ) can see , men are not treated well.
I like a good laugh as much as anyone , but the messege is pounded home , men are either idiots , or bad.
I'm a independant voter..I voted for Kerry last time. I'm not a "kool-Aid" drinker.
Womens and other minority groups would never stand for the kind of treatment men and fathers get in the culture.
Men for the most part just shake it off and go about our business. Thanks again. T.R.
-by oldheathen
INCOMPETENCE
Along with Sloth, Incompetence is a blight on most work. People might have, according to most reports, been more cautious and conscientious in their work in the past, but it is certainly not common today in many places. In a blog this takes the form of constant use of “open thread” comment sections rather than a real effort to provide content, for example.
For a reporter incompetence rarely takes the form of basic journalistic skills – the competition is too heavy for a truly incapable reporter to get far. But it can take the form of being totally unaware of a topic or subject being covered.
The three areas that this can be most clear and common are Religion, Science, and the Military.
Reporters seem almost wholly without understanding of religious matters which can result in some odd reporting and almost clueless stories being printed. Vanity Fair ran a long article about the alleged influence of a part of Christianity on policy decisions in Washington. For this article, the writer sought out some meaty quotes from more noisy and prominent people to support this without understanding really what was being said or how representative these folks were of what Vanity Fair called the “religious right.” While the religious right exists, it is not made up of a uniform bloc of extremist fundamentalists who believe Israel will be the site of a new kingdom on earth that we must work to usher in. There are a few who think this, but they really do not number such a very large amount of Christians, and none of them have any real political power or any influence over policy made by President Bush or his administration, despite frightened opinion pieces at the New York Times.
On the November 7 Meet the Press, host Tim Russert announced: “One Democrat said to me, ‘Are we on the verge of a theocracy, where if you don't agree with the president and evangelical Christians on abortion or on gays, there really is no room for you to practice what you believe in the United States?’” This sort of fear of the unknown and misunderstanding of what reporters consider alien and outside them is due primarily to ignorance and lack of familiarity with religion and Christianity. Although all polls of the US indicate that the nation is very religious, news media organizations are outside this mainstream and lack the professionals to bridge that gap.
In a 1980 survey known as the Lichter-Rothman study, it was discovered that 86 percent of the “media elite” rarely or never attended religious meetings, and that 50 percent claimed no religion at all.
Martin Pinsky at the Columbia Journalism Review examines the attitude and confusion among religious reporters in an article entitled Among the Evangelicals:
Pressed to identify a single evangelical Christian who is not a national religious leader, a country music star, a politician, or an athlete, many journalists based outside red states would probably flail around like a desperate quiz show contestant — until the name Ned Flanders [from the television show The Simpsons] popped into their minds.However, Mr Pinsky - a religion writer for the Los Angeles Times and Orlando Sentinel since 1985 - goes on with this statement:
Amid the lingering bewilderment in the wake of the presidential election, I can sympathize with those of my colleagues still puzzling over the evangelical enigma. It’s never easy to parachute into an alien environment and file a coherent story eight hours later. As with a Boston journalist covering the Catholic Church or one in Salt Lake City covering the Mormons, reporting about evangelicals while living in the Sunbelt provides the luxury of home-field advantage, as well as the opportunity to return again and again to the subject.Over time, however, he recognized a problem:
In retrospect, it is clear that I should have been paying closer attention to another, equally important story in my backyard: a little congregation called Saddleback Valley Community Church in southern Orange County, which would grow into one of the nation’s most influential mega-churches. Its pastor, the Reverend Rick Warren, whom I confess I never sought out to interview, developed the motivational concept of the forty-day “Purpose Driven Church” that is today sweeping the nation’s congregations and, in book form, is a fixture on the best-seller lists.Mr Pinksy finally notes that after moving to Orlando, he says "For the first time in my life, I was living in a sea of believing, faithful Christians, and the cold shock felt like total immersion" and realized his coverage was lacking:
This epiphany — it would be hard to call it anything else, except maybe a revelation — transformed the way I approached my beat. I discarded the traditional way of structuring my stories. No more, “While some wacko evangelical leaders over here say this, these rational secularists and moderate mainliners over there say that,” with an author or academic in the middle tossed in for balance.
Evangelicals were no longer caricatures or abstractions. I learned to interpret their metaphors and read their body language. From personal, day-to-day experience I observed what John Green at the University of Akron has discerned from extensive research: evangelicals were not monolithic nor were they, as The Washington Post infamously characterized them, “poor, uneducated and easy to command.”
In addition to mere lack of familiarity, there is an open hostility toward religion and Christianity in particular. Ted Turner, for example, demonstrated antipathy toward Christianity while in charge of CNN, saying “Christianity is a religion for losers” and according to eyewitnesses:
Ted Turner stunned CNN employees in Washington when he made an anti-Christian remark on Ash Wednesday. Seeing ashes on the forehead of some workers, Turner said, “What are you? A bunch of Jesus freaks? You ought to be working for Fox.”
For the reporter, religion is a confusing issue, as Steven Waldman of Beliefnet puts it, “You are dealing with very squishy, difficult to quantify topics. Do you have a soul? What happens to it? Journalists tend to look for proof of things, and this is one area where proof is harder to come up with.” But familiarity with this issue and the ways people understand their faith and live it would help bridge this gulf and help avoid incompetent or confused coverage by the news media.
SCIENCE
"As an interviewee, I find myself frustrated with the stupidity and irrelevance of most of their questions."
Similarly, when it comes to Science issues, the news media is all too often out of its depth. While most reporters have had some science in their schooling, it was not an area of study or interest for most, and few took anything beyond the most basic courses. When confronted with a scientific issue, they often will simply take what the man in the lab coat says at his word (see Credulity below), especially if it fits their ideology. Groups such as the Center for Science in the Public Interest take advantage of this regularly, with studies that seem to indicate something, and the media runs with it like a kid with a great report card running into the house, waving it over his head (again, see credulity below).
Lack of real scientific knowledge most often takes effect by the reporters “jazzing up” a report, or dropping critical qualifiers and information to “sex up” a story. When a scientist tells the press conference something like this:
“it appears with the most recent evidence and computer modeling that a meteor that is big and dense enough to significantly damage the earth may strike within the next 100 years. We believe that if this impact is from a sufficiently massive meteor it could result in climactic change and if it hits a major population area the deaths of millions.”“KILLER METEOR TARGETS EARTH, MILLIONS MAY DIE”
Recently at a press conference, Dr Knowitall of the Studying Things Institute said that “a meteor that is big and dense enough to significantly damage the earth" could "result in climactic change" and cause the deaths of millions...
Is this true, at some level? Technically, but it is not what the scientist said. By carefully quoting bits of what he said, disregarding others, and exaggerating some points, the story moves from a minor curiosity to a horribly certain doom. The use of words such as "could" and "may" preserve the reporter's ability to technically avoid putting words in the mouth of the scientist, but the wording is misleading and designed to scare the pants off the reader and sell newspapers.
This sort of scientific ignorance combined with sensationalism is how we get reports on how oat bran that will save your life, then the next year how it will kill you, or that mother’s milk is alternately good and bad for children.
This sort of scientific ignorance can result in minor errors as well as major ones. For example, in Discovery Magazine (volume 26, #3), on page 54 in the article "Drilling San Andreas" by Brad Lemley, we are told that the San Andreas Fault curves up 800 miles from the Gulf of Mexico. The gulf that this fault curves up from is the Gulf of California, between mainland Mexico and Baja California. This was not the only minor but absurd geographical error in the article.
Senior research scientist at the Cooperative Institute for Mesoscale Meteorology Chuck Doswell describes his experience with the news media:
It's easy to see why politicians and other famous people like actors, musicians, and sports stars dislike the media so much. The reporters intrude on your life according to their whims and schedule, they reduce a 2-hour interview to a 5-second soundbite, and act like they're doing you a favor! I had some media person actually tell me once how he was going to make me "famous" by putting me on national TV (after the May 3rd tornado) and was apparently dumbfounded when that didn't impress me.
As an interviewee, I find myself frustrated with the stupidity and irrelevance of most of their questions. I would rather a reporter not have a preconceived notion of what the story should be about ... the story should emerge out of interviews and "research" into the story.
Some reporters have confided to me that their readers (or listeners, or viewers) are too stupid to understand anything that lasts beyond a 5-second "soundbite" or a one-sentence paragraph. What arrogance! To hold your public in contempt at the same time you pretend to serve them!! This also seems to me to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If we never give the public anything more than an "MTV"-like presentation, with constantly changing images and rapid-fire "dialog" then that is what they come to expect, naturally. If we take the time to explore a story carefully, deeply, and honestly, the public might react positively. Who knows? No one will, if we don't make an effort to give the public anything more than superficiality!In a footnote, he brings up a problem with the term "expert" used by reporters:
...if I have learned something from 30 years of scientific work, it is that no one is truly an expert. We're simply being called that by the media to lend credence to their stories.The desire for a good story and to sell their product can lead news organizations to unethical ends, prompting manipulation of a story, such as in NBC News' infamous rigging of a pickup for a Dateline story. The story was meant to show how dangerous a GM pickup was due to side-mounted gas tanks for extended range, but the stubborn truck refused to explode like the news report said it would. So they hooked up explosives on the side of the truck to expedite matters. To make sure, they put an ill-fitting off-model gas cap on the tank to encourage it to leak better. The truck did erupt into flames as the producers desired, and the story was ran. To this day it is not possible to get a production pickup truck with "sidesaddle" gas tanks, despite the fact that the report all but proved it was not going to explode.

MILITARY
In Operation Iraqi Freedom, the Coalition of the Willing was joined with “imbedded” reporters who moved with and got to know the soldiers.This was an attempt by the US government to address this lack of familiarity and even hostility, and for a time it worked.The result was better coverage and a deeper understanding of the events and efforts, as well as a recognition that soldiers were pretty good guys.
Over time the imbedding has lessened and now is virtually unused due to expense, a lack of real interest, and an admitted fear that reporters were getting too chummy with the soldiers, something that reminds me of Stalin sending soldiers who had too much contact with allied troops to reeducation camps. Their crime? Becoming too “westernized.”
According to the Reporters On The Ground Conference (PDF warning),
In addition to the boot camps, many reporters were given the opportunity to spend time with military units training in the U.S. prior to going off to war. This allowed the reporters and military to build trust in each other and to get familiar with each other’s terminology and routines. It also allowed the news organizations and reporters the opportunity to test their new equipment, techniques, and procedures for reporting in what would be a fluid, hectic environment.In Progressive Magazine, Robert Jensen, criticized the Embedded Media Program, complaining tha embedded reporters identified too closely with their military subjects.
The Rand Corporation echoed this position:
Some believe that the embedded press system can lead reporters to lose their objectivity because they identify too closely with the soldiers with whom they are embedded.In previous wars, this was considered a benefit, a positive result rather than a source of concern. But the modern media often considers the military a potential enemy. Christian Amanpour, who said this about Operation Iraqi Freedom in Iraq:
The war in Iraq has basically turned out to be a disaster. And journalists have paid for it, paid for the privilege of witnessing and reporting that, and so have many, many other people who have been here.
CREDULITY
“That implicit credulity is the mark of a feeble mind will not be disputed.”
Related to Sloth and Incompetence is Credulity, the tendency to believe things without critical thought or examination. A Credulous person is one that will take someone at their word, will believe something because it’s written down, and will not question whether it is accurate, plausible, or even truthful.Credulity in reporting all too often can take the form of a tendency to believe something because it fits a presupposition or ideological position.
If you start out with the assumption that Democratic politicians care about the little guy and Republican ones are for big business, then a story that portrays this is going to seem more plausible without needing deeper examination. This may very well be true, or it may not. But a credulous reporter who holds this position is less likely to examine or challenge a story that fits in neatly with his worldview.
Walter Olson wrote about credulity in the media in 1993 shortly after NBC Dateline's embarrassing episode with the pickup gas tank. Mr Olson points out that event was far from the first or only such example. In a 1986 story, CBS ran a story in which:
An Audi was shown taking off like a bolt without a foot on the accelerator -- seeming proof that the vehicle could display a malignant will of its own. Ed Bradley told viewers that, according to a safety expert named William Rosenbluth, "unusually high transmission pressure could build up on certain model Audis causing the throttle to open up . . . . Again, watch the pedal go down by itself."
Frightening stuff, eh? "What the viewers couldn't watch," wrote Peter Huber in 1992's "Galileo's Revenge," "was where the 'unusually high transmission pressure' had come from. It had come from a bottle. Rosenbluth had drilled a hole in the Audi transmission," through which he'd pumped in air or fluid at high pressure. (CBS still defends its segment.)
he's a frequent network consultant on auto safety -- "a combination of source, field producer and technical adviser for ABC-TV in its auto safety coverage," reports Autoweek, which notes that he's assisted seven ABC segments on auto safety hazards, three of them since 1990.
When not doing paid media consulting, Bloch is perhaps the single best-known hired expert witness in injury lawsuits against automakers. He doesn't challenge reports that he lacks formal training in auto safety or engineering, and he acknowledged in a 1980 case that his resume' listed a degree he didn't have. Still, he's appeared in court to testify about alleged defects not just in cars but in products ranging from coffee pots to railroad cars. He also offers $ 400-per-person seminars for trial lawyers, promising the scoop on such topics as "Key Graphic Exhibits for Trial."
NBC relied on another expert for their initial defense of the story, a man named Bruce Enz:
Enz, of The Institute for Safety Analysis, turns out to be another frequent expert testifier against GM -- and indeed against every major car maker in the U.S. market. He's not an engineer either, nor, he says, are any of the 25 staff members of his institute, which is a for-profit organization.
Then there's Ben Kelley, another frequent witness, who has boasted that NBC used Enz's group "at our suggestion." Kelley himself has enjoyed success providing crash-test footage to TV producers. When CBS's "Street Stories" questioned the reliability of safety belts last fall, it relied heavily on Kelley's Maryland-based Institute for Injury Reduction, which the show blandly described as an "auto safety consumer group." Marion Blakey, head of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, flayed the resulting coverage as "factually inaccurate."